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Feb 11 2015 01:13pm
Quote (legen @ Feb 11 2015 02:10pm)
Poolings going to be allowed, and wont be up for debait. All other realms depend on pooling since they dont have hacked charms, limiting mana pots does discourage some budget or perm chars as already mentioned which limits people joining, and the duels that literally go down to "out manaing" your opponent are MUCH more inherently defensive, long, retarded, and simply not enjoyable.

Even our team duels are moving towards allowing people to get mana if they need it, getting re bo'd when barb bo's run out, etc, and this is exactly the way we should be moving. The way that promotes what 99% of the community considers fun and enjoyable.


So on that note, I will not be changing the mana pot rule. If you really dont like it, your free to not participate.



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Feb 11 2015 01:15pm
Also, just to mention it, a 300-500 mana barb would be unuseable just because between leaps, teleports, wws, wcs, etc you will mana yourself mid series of attacks, pool or not lol
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Feb 11 2015 01:16pm
Quote (adzama @ Feb 11 2015 03:07pm)
you wont beat any decent nec or sin with 300 mana on barb lmao, especially without a pool


Maybe.
But I enjoy my time so it doesn't really matter to me :D

Quote (legen @ Feb 11 2015 03:10pm)
Poolings going to be allowed, and wont be up for debait. All other realms depend on pooling since they dont have hacked charms, limiting mana pots does discourage some budget or perm chars as already mentioned which limits people joining, and the duels that literally go down to "out manaing" your opponent are MUCH more inherently defensive, long, retarded, and simply not enjoyable.

Even our team duels are moving towards allowing people to get mana if they need it, getting re bo'd when barb bo's run out, etc, and this is exactly the way we should be moving. The way that promotes what 99% of the community considers fun and enjoyable.


So on that note, I will not be changing the mana pot rule. If you really dont like it, your free to not participate.


I don't have an issue with it.
To be 100% honest, I don't care what so ever about either of these things.
I am just talking about options.
People take d2 duels too seriously.

I know we have rules for a reason, but some of them are just not needed. 10 pages of arguing about medi, mana pools, and charges is just...too much lol.
You made a decision about pooling, do it for medi, and charges.

I am unsure if I missed it but I am not sure if you did on the charges.
Make a poll for it like you did with medi and then there is no argument :D

Quote (legen @ Feb 11 2015 03:15pm)
Also, just to mention it, a 300-500 mana barb would be unuseable just because between leaps, teleports, wws, wcs, etc you will mana yourself mid series of attacks, pool or not lol


I am well aware of the difficulties of a 300-500 mana barb. I run one :D

This post was edited by Glyphic on Feb 11 2015 01:17pm
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Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 11 2015 02:16pm)
Maybe.
But I enjoy my time so it doesn't really matter to me :D



I don't have an issue with it.
To be 100% honest, I don't care what so ever about either of these things.
I am just talking about options.
People take d2 duels too seriously.

I know we have rules for a reason, but some of them are just not needed. 10 pages of arguing about medi, mana pools, and charges is just...too much lol.
You made a decision about pooling, do it for medi, and charges.

I am unsure if I missed it but I am not sure if you did on the charges.
Make a poll for it like you did with medi and then there is no argument :D


The way charges is now is fine, and does appeal to most of the community. If 2 people relies they perfer charges more, like most west or europe player would, they can choose to use it. Until it is used more, it will stay as is for now.

As for medi there was clearly alot of hate for the current rule so im fine talking it out with everyone.
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Feb 11 2015 01:25pm
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The way charges is now is fine, and does appeal to most of the community. If 2 people relies they perfer charges more, like most west or europe player would, they can choose to use it. Until it is used more, it will stay as is for now.

As for medi there was clearly alot of hate for the current rule so im fine talking it out with everyone.


I don't think talking it out will get us to an agreement.

The fact that there are loads of pages here arguing about it sorta proves that.
Too many people have hard opinions on it.
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Feb 11 2015 01:33pm
Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 11 2015 02:25pm)
I don't think talking it out will get us to an agreement.

The fact that there are loads of pages here arguing about it sorta proves that.
Too many people have hard opinions on it.


No ones aguring about charges, just medi o.o

Anyway, how about i put it like this: im hearing out everyones opinions so i can come to a conclusion on how it should be handled. Right now were look at it being fully allowed, fully banned, or attempt to introduce a new variable allowing specilized use of it.


Votes and having 2 mains sides is simple if a mass majority appears in the pooling, else i wont enforce a change such as that. Personally i value the opinions of the people that know and live this game on a daliy bases still. (Note i said know, thus puas opnion will not count for anything :p )
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Feb 11 2015 01:41pm
Quote (legen @ Feb 11 2015 03:33pm)
No ones aguring about charges, just medi o.o

Anyway, how about i put it like this: im hearing out everyones opinions so i can come to a conclusion on how it should be handled. Right now were look at it being fully allowed, fully banned, or attempt to introduce a new variable allowing specilized use of it.


Votes and having 2 mains sides is simple if a mass majority appears in the pooling, else i wont enforce a change such as that. Personally i value the opinions of the people that know and live this game on a daliy bases still. (Note i said know, thus puas opnion will not count for anything :p )


i spit my coffee.. damn you max.
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Quote (legen @ Feb 11 2015 03:33pm)
No ones aguring about charges, just medi o.o

Anyway, how about i put it like this: im hearing out everyones opinions so i can come to a conclusion on how it should be handled. Right now were look at it being fully allowed, fully banned, or attempt to introduce a new variable allowing specilized use of it.


Votes and having 2 mains sides is simple if a mass majority appears in the pooling, else i wont enforce a change such as that. Personally i value the opinions of the people that know and live this game on a daliy bases still. (Note i said know, thus puas opnion will not count for anything :p )


I know there isn't that many for the charges, Im off that topic now lol.
And that is much better put. A lot less ambiguous.
Why not take pua's advice? No rools = fairest dools :D
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Feb 11 2015 01:43pm
i personally think charges make most matchups a lot more fun / interesting as they tend to allow for more offensive play, but i think the way it is now is fine. a lot of east players aren't used to playing like that


i have no opinion either way on medi, but i think the life rep is pretty abusable and can easily turn some duels into wars of attrition that favor the paladin simply because he's repping way more life than you. on the other hand, hdins are pretty gimped in most matchups already. ( hammer vs decent nec is completely unwinnable for hdin by east rules :( )

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