i didn't miss your point, i just felt like pointing that out. i do agree that not allowing pools can definitely be unfair in some matchups, and makes it much harder for people with welfare/perm characters.

Would be impossible to combine life rep + prayer heal to a gm limit, even at 1 point without changing the limit or adding a new special rule just when using cleans or medi. As marvel / i showed, 1 point prayer on a hdin is appox equivalent to 125 rep on gear.

Clearly you cant and wont be able to use medi 100% of the time, but considering that value alone is 3x the gm limit and thats what im getting the majority seems to have a problem with. Again, im still for it just being allowed ~~

Link so others can still vote: http://strawpoll.me/3612984/

This post was edited by legen on Feb 11 2015 12:43pm

Right, I don't play dins nor played in a while so yeah 1 pt I think is what should be allowed, but there again it's going to make people want to l8z with it, like dual hoto barb corner leaping lol..



It was recently

I know, i was just trying to bring you up to speed on the conversation about it

I really don't think pooling is needed. I have a 300-500 mana barb depending on my setup and with just a belt of mana there is no reason for me to pool. I think I can honestly say no one has less than that.

That being said. If I can go on 300 mana and 16x pots, no one needs a pool. I think to solve this issue, Max should open another poll

Ban
Allow (no consent)
Allow (consent)

As for medi. I more or less agree with Austin.
I mean, him trying to relate it to hp pots I disagree, but that isn't the point.
If a din is trying to rep with medi he can only do it if you are also being defensive.
When he tries all you need to do is attack. Simple.

This post was edited by Glyphic on Feb 11 2015 01:00pm

Take a 300 mana barb and duel a l8z blizz and lmk

Honestly I feel as though you should build your char based on the 16x belt but I also feel like 400 mana sin is going to eat mana as fast as it can get back to the pool regardless anyway so idc about that really

yeah 300 mana barb vs any blizz = you are going to have a bad time

A 65 fcr barb shouldn't have issues with a l8z blizz imo.
65 fcr on a barb allows him to chase rather well. A well timed leap as she tries to blizz can easily lock her long enough to get a hit in. At least 1.
That being said, a single 451 is enough to work her down.

At least, that is my experience. Maybe I just haven't dueled good enough blizzes



I should clarify.
I don't have 300 mana against blizz sorcs. about 525 is what I have.

This post was edited by Glyphic on Feb 11 2015 01:06pm

you wont beat any decent nec or sin with 300 mana on barb lmao, especially without a pool

Poolings going to be allowed, and wont be up for debait. All other realms depend on pooling since they dont have hacked charms, limiting mana pots does discourage some budget or perm chars as already mentioned which limits people joining, and the duels that literally go down to "out manaing" your opponent are MUCH more inherently defensive, long, retarded, and simply not enjoyable.

Even our team duels are moving towards allowing people to get mana if they need it, getting re bo'd when barb bo's run out, etc, and this is exactly the way we should be moving. The way that promotes what 99% of the community considers fun and enjoyable.


So on that note, I will not be changing the mana pot rule. If you really dont like it, your free to not participate.