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May 17 2009 01:25pm
My point was, and I've already told you this that desynche/ims/iga are all exploits and so is stacking. Stacking is considered by almost everyone to be bm. Yet the first 3 are not.
I did not join to chase ghosts. In both my matches I had what you call octagon control. I did all the attacking and was constantly hit by ims/iga. And the few times I did find my opponents after they ran off the map they disappeared just as soon as I found them.

Again, I'm not saying we kill off frw. I'm saying we need to set a cap. Right now there is no frw cap.. you can get 200%frw and desynche when you walk ffs. I'd much like to see a ruling to get a cap of 120%, and stricter off the map times. Take that 10 second mark to 5 seconds. Less defensive behavior would kill off iga/ims. I was plotting doing time stamps and minimap s/s to show how long people were running off my map. And yes I am talking about you Muzik. lolraaaaagez only did synche, which is "OK." cause he wasn't abusing ims/iga.

And I'm selling my zon. I may never return to zvz and will let all the secrets to my zon and her dmg die with OtepShamaya.
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May 17 2009 01:26pm
Quote (SwanoW @ Sun, May 17 2009, 07:25pm)
My point was, and I've already told you this that desynche/ims/iga are all exploits and so is stacking. Stacking is considered by almost everyone to be bm. Yet the first 3 are not.
I did not join to chase ghosts. In both my matches I had what you call octagon control. I did all the attacking and was constantly hit by ims/iga. And the few times I did find my opponents after they ran off the map they disappeared just as soon as I found them.

Again, I'm not saying we kill off frw. I'm saying we need to set a cap. Right now there is no frw cap.. you can get 200%frw and desynche when you walk ffs. I'd much like to see a ruling to get a cap of 120%, and stricter off the map times. Take that 10 second mark to 5 seconds. Less defensive behavior would kill off iga/ims. I was plotting doing time stamps and minimap s/s to show how long people were running off my map. And yes I am talking about you Muzik. lolraaaaagez only did synche, which is "OK." cause he wasn't abusing ims/iga.

And I'm selling my zon. I may never return to zvz and will let all the secrets to my zon and her dmg die with OtepShamaya.


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Quote (Airwaveslol @ Sun, May 17 2009, 03:06pm)
Well you need to let me know, or I can't lock your spot... I'm letting normal rules apply only because it's fair to Muzik because neither of us knew.

After it expires your spot will be locked for 1 week.




PM me this stuff... pming you.



[B]I didn't write these rules, Mew did, but I won't have people cheating... zvz is like golf.  You can cheat and win but nobody will take you seriously.
I think the rules are good enough, along with the gm rules in my profile you guys should be following, there shouldn't be a problem.


(Sorry Doug but the rules in my profile haven't been fucked with and will always be the GM template.)

That said desynch is a part of zvz, it's 50% skill 50% luck.
If anyone is being an idiot, talk to them, then talk to me and we can get this settled.  Don't make me come rebuild my zon an eighth time and slap all of you down to rank 10. :>[B]


I pm'd this to Swanow but do not fucking igs spam synching off their map for longer than 10 seconds... if you do that, I will disqualify you.  This may be 1.13 but play legit, learn to handle your zon, develop a style.  You can't do that ghost dueling.

I'm now appointing refs, because it's not the first time I've had complaints about this.  It goes back to when Lizzie and I were dueling.
Get one of us, or schedule your match with us, and we can observe.


Are you ref'n LOL'z and I game? its shots///rage idk if the ref rule applys yet but if so that game name. Should be happening in about 10 minutes.
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May 17 2009 01:27pm
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I hear the sound of Lizzie coming back soon Oo


Referees (Schedule a match with us, or pm us to observe a controversial match you won't restart.):

Misguided / Airwaveslol / *ZvA (If I'm on #2 it's my girlfriend Alexia on my account and she'll let me know.)
Jean
zSex
Mission



ZVZ LADDER

[1] Multie /Audacity / Audacity.
[2] Jean / stuslegend / n00bmg
[3] zSex / Budiu22 / Z[bruNNy]
[4] Mission/ GSpurs / SNES
[5] Carrotop / lizziegiggles / lizziewiggles
[6] PostIt / LOLRagezzz / Thetopdecker
[7] VS-Cameron / Camer0n21/ I.Sleep
[8] Shots / Muzik / Muzik.
[9] Trichomoniasis / Unsung_herox / Unsung_herox
[10] OtepShamaya // SwanoW // *OtepShamaya

Open For Challenge
All but 5, 8, 6

Matches
8 vs. 6 (Sat, May 19 2009, 02:01pm)


Just remember nobody challenge Lizzie thanks!
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May 17 2009 01:28pm
Quote (SwanoW @ Sun, May 17 2009, 03:25pm)
My point was, and I've already told you this that desynche/ims/iga are all exploits and so is stacking. Stacking is considered by almost everyone to be bm. Yet the first 3 are not.
I did not join to chase ghosts. In both my matches I had what you call octagon control. I did all the attacking and was constantly hit by ims/iga. And the few times I did find my opponents after they ran off the map they disappeared just as soon as I found them.

Again, I'm not saying we kill off frw. I'm saying we need to set a cap. Right now there is no frw cap.. you can get 200%frw and desynche when you walk ffs. I'd much like to see a ruling to get a cap of 120%, and stricter off the map times. Take that 10 second mark to 5 seconds. Less defensive behavior would kill off iga/ims. I was plotting doing time stamps and minimap s/s to show how long people were running off my map. And yes I am talking about you Muzik. lolraaaaagez only did synche, which is "OK." cause he wasn't abusing ims/iga.

And I'm selling my zon. I may never return to zvz and will let all the secrets to my zon and her dmg die with OtepShamaya.


I was never off your map for more then 10 sec... Imo your just ragin cause you got slammed =\.. I said no hard feelin you so no hard feelin's now your ragin? Stay out of ZvZ if you cant hang with the big dogs ;]
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May 17 2009 01:31pm
Quote (MuziK @ Sun, May 17 2009, 03:28pm)
I was never off your map for more then 10 sec... Imo your just ragin cause you got slammed =\.. I said no hard feelin you so no hard feelin's now your ragin? Stay out of ZvZ if you cant hang with the big dogs ;]


I got hit almost 10x by your ims and iga's.

If you want to, I'll rematch with a ref and see if you 5-2 w/o excessive ims/iga.
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May 17 2009 01:31pm
Quote (SwanoW @ Sun, May 17 2009, 07:31pm)
I got hit almost 10x by your ims and iga's.

If you want to, I'll rematch with a ref and see if you 5-2 w/o excessive ims/iga.


ims/iga is part of zvz...This isnt a java zon ladder
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May 17 2009 01:31pm
Alright settle down with the flames or I'll remove everyone under Lizzie.

Disappearing off your opponents map for more than 10 seconds and spamming iga is unmannered and pointless.
Desynch isn't going to be capped if someone chooses to sacrifice life/damage for speed to get under their opponent or a terrain advantage that's their choice.
IGA/IMA is in fact part of zvz, this is a freestyle ladder. Try to be good mannered about it though.


I'm not saying one way or another for either of you, get a fucking referee and restart the ft5.

My AIM is NorthernxSky or pm me, flame each other there... otherwise come to me privately please.



This is the last post about it, I will have a mediator (hopefully paparick isn't mad at me still lol) remove any posts as spam if I need to.

This post was edited by Airwaveslol on May 17 2009 01:47pm
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May 17 2009 01:31pm
Quote (SwanoW @ Sun, May 17 2009, 03:31pm)
I got hit almost 10x by your ims and iga's.

If you want to, I'll rematch with a ref and see if you 5-2 w/o excessive ims/iga.


Alright sounds good.. Setup a time.. For rematch but I got to ZvZ rage atm.
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Gdz LOLRagezzz

5-0 Me =D

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