b/c oaks and bear are used for stacking summons on characters that dont have it (paladin), to help avoid missiles.

I never included chant b/c barbs are already strong as is, nn to give them another free 5k ar ~~

Because oak isn't a game changer per say like using gavel of pain on a barb or especially a Druid, it has like 54 life as a charge dies to anything even a shadows MB and is primarily used as a minion for missle bugging

Play the game how it's meant to be played.

The PuA way.

In the coming months I'll come up with some philosphies/ PuA standards.

I have cum on my right hand from beating off so it's hard t type good night

short memory? you're the one who banned it in the first place need i remind you why

harumi shittin' on tha game..

over a set 5 years ago lol ~~

clrly opinions are going to change

I believe meditation should remain GM, assuming you're not overdoing it.
I like the idea of banning it if you have over 1 point into prayer because the point behind it is to provide mana, not life.
Compared to other classes, paladins in general need a lot more mana to move around the map with charge.
They also cannot relay as much on WSG/teleport as most other classes do.

Also, although not many V/T's play, I personally find this essential on my 400 mana V/T where I use a cta with /+meditation skills on swap with no points in prayer (no life rep).
Additionally, the vulnerability of the paladins while using meditation should counter-balance the life provided from it or at least be taken into consideration.

This post was edited by Joe_Spy on Feb 10 2015 09:16pm

I disagree, people are going to have a dueling attitude regardless of Medi. You can play over defensive with rep alone, Druids can manipulate rep with unsummon. There's plenty of healing in the meta outside of Medi. For me, Medi would make me less defensive by reducing the amount of time I'm waiting to feel comfortable to restomp when HP remaining warrants playing defensive. Good players die from you stomping. Serious duels warrant defensive play from both sides. This whole "off your opponents screen for x sides is BM" mindset some of the community is mind boggling. ANYONE competent will make use of rep for tournaments/ladders/whatever competitive environment. Not to mention how diluted Hdin is under the general east rule set. Let me point out that 3/4 FPK classes are better equipped to deal with the hdin playing defensive (trap/MB range necro missile range, druid stack).

But you can pool as much mana as you want in the moor prior to duel.
I've only ever seen meditation abused.

I won't use it against you, don't worry.