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Jan 7 2011 06:53am
Quote (Koryu @ Jan 7 2011 12:42pm)
talkin' about the bug that you get double eth bonus when cubing socs in eth armors
you are the onlyone who complains about prudence in eth bugged armor..NO ONE ELSE rage about this armor...

also ren when he duel iridius..he diden't say anything about prudence in ETH BUGGED AP...

so it's allowed...but you make so much complains about that..why?

This post was edited by kalhmera on Jan 7 2011 06:55am
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Jan 7 2011 06:56am
Hi guys,^^ i just noticed that u are argument about bug def, i just bought some days ago my 3.114 bug def ap for my aow... it wasn't banned before(since years) and now this?^ ehehe seems strange...
Btw, i did 4-2 vs joe some days ago also, he can confirm that my barb has awesome def ofc, but is not immortal, or unbeatable or whatever , but also im not using enigma, which gives massive life+ dmg(if u count the point from str that u don't put at all).
So, summary:
High def with such ''banned''(as seems) prudence eth bug def ---> Low life - dmg
High life + dmg with eni ---> Low def

Do you think the same or?
Let me know, im able to confront my opinions to anybody of you :)

Edit: if u will have any problem with it, and rules will be changed to not allow bug def from cube, np, i don't care that much, but we must agree at 100%


This post was edited by Frank8989 on Jan 7 2011 07:06am
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Jan 7 2011 06:58am
well on the one hand, aow is against any bugs (created by players or blizzzard's imba programming skills)
on the other hand, the "more-def-by-cube-socketing-on eth armors"-bug, isn't listed yet

so, for these league round it must be allowed, to follow the rules written here
for next league this must be discussed I guess
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Jan 7 2011 07:06am
I agree it should be a point of discussion since it remains a bug.
However, for the reasons listed mainly by Frank8989 this bug doesn't create so much imbalance that it puts the user at a pointed advantage, mainly due to the loss of the extra str. and %dr bonus from enigma.

Argand, i know it's about the bug, what i meant to say is that by banning this bug there is even less room for differentiation in the possible builds and does not create imbalance and therefore can be allowed in my opinion. Going purely by the rules that bugged items are banned, prudence builds would be invalid though.

Quote (Frank8989 @ 7 Jan 2011 13:56)
Hi guys,^^ i just noticed that u are argument about bug def, i just bought some days ago my 3.114 bug def ap for my aow... it wasn't banned before(since years) and now this?^ ehehe seems strange...
Btw, i did 4-2 vs joe some days ago also, he can confirm that my barb has awesome def ofc, but is not immortal, or unbeatable or whatever , but also im not using enigma, which gives massive life+ dmg(if u count the point from str that u don't put at all).
So, summary:
High def with such ''banned''(as seems) prudence eth bug def ---> Low life - dmg
High life + dmg with eni ---> Low def

Do you think the same or?
Let me know, im able to confront my opinions to anybody of you :)


Quote (Metzga @ 7 Jan 2011 13:58)
well on the one hand, aow is against any bugs (created by players or blizzzard's imba programming skills)
on the other hand, the "more-def-by-cube-socketing-on eth armors"-bug, isn't listed yet

so, for these league round it must be allowed, to follow the rules written here
for next league this must be discussed I guess


This post was edited by Dizzyfawaka on Jan 7 2011 07:08am
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Jan 7 2011 07:07am
i dont think eth bug prudence is imbalanced and i am fine if its allowed.
but it just should be clear, cuz' there is no doubt that this is a not a feature but a bug.
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Jan 7 2011 07:07am
Quote (kalhmera @ Jan 7 2011 01:53pm)
you are the onlyone who complains about prudence in eth bugged armor..NO ONE ELSE rage about this armor...

also ren when he duel iridius..he diden't say anything about prudence in ETH BUGGED AP...

so it's allowed...but you make so much complains about that..why?


chill down man
he doesnt rage, he just brought this issue up because its necessary to talk about things like that.
in the last 2v2 aow tournament i asked about the sense behind forbidden 322 bears.
whats the problem with you? isnt it allowed to talk about such stuff?


Quote (Metzga @ Jan 7 2011 01:58pm)
well on the one hand, aow is against any bugs (created by players or blizzzard's imba programming skills)
on the other hand, the "more-def-by-cube-socketing-on eth armors"-bug, isn't listed yet

so, for these league round it must be allowed, to follow the rules written here
for next league this must be discussed I guess


sounds good imo

This post was edited by Argand on Jan 7 2011 07:08am
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Jan 7 2011 07:15am
Armor like i use is allowed in Aow, more def from cube isnt server bug (like bb or tb or zb) its integral part of d2 patch (part of code that wors all time, in the same way)
So if some1 dont accept this, than can do his own tournament, and stop crying here.
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Jan 7 2011 07:22am
Quote (iridius @ Jan 7 2011 01:15pm)
Armor like i use is allowed in Aow, more def from cube isnt server bug (like bb or tb or zb) its integral part of d2 patch (part of code that wors all time, in the same way)
So if some1 dont accept this, than can do his own tournament, and stop crying here.


Please don't use such words as ''cry'' etc, we are just talking about it, no1 cries :)
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Jan 7 2011 07:24am
Quote (iridius @ Jan 7 2011 02:15pm)
Armor like i use is allowed in Aow, more def from cube isnt server bug (like bb or tb or zb) its integral part of d2 patch (part of code that wors all time, in the same way)
So if some1 dont accept this, than can do his own tournament, and stop crying here.


then why is it listed everywhere as a bug? :S
zodbug is btw NO server-bug.


beside that, it is not fair imo to say "some1 is crying" just because this person came up with an important issue for the bvb community to talk about.


Quote (Frank8989 @ Jan 7 2011 02:22pm)
Please don't use such words as ''cry'' etc, we are just talking about it, no1 cries :)


thats what i'm saying, m8




btw: this is not about changing rules, its just about interpreting the rules.


This post was edited by Argand on Jan 7 2011 07:27am
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Jan 7 2011 07:27am
Quote (iridius @ 7 Jan 2011 15:15)
Armor like i use is allowed in Aow, more def from cube isnt server bug (like bb or tb or zb) its integral part of d2 patch (part of code that wors all time, in the same way)
So if some1 dont accept this, than can do his own tournament, and stop crying here.


zodbug was a bug in the patch 1.10 and was fixed within an update patch. no server bug.
nobody is crying here. its an argumentation.

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