for sure vita has advantage without bmana's but a 200 fcr lite sorc can beat any fire sorc if played right imo

and thats too much work, ill just go back to es so i can tank 4-5 htis from everyone regardless of element and i just wont stomp vita sorcs

its different because it forces you to put the most thought into the lamest svs duel instead of worrying abt vs fire and vs lite that are actually fun
if i can just kira/wizzy/coh it both give me enough stack + hurts my dmg way worse (thus helping the blizzy) than using rares that i have specifically to get around this arbitrary number

This post was edited by GoHuskers on Jan 9 2011 10:33pm

I didn't forsee all of this happening from the rule change.....

the blizzy is what were aiming to help because its so far out of contension with the other rules. i dont see what your getting at with the gear.. it just makes it so you cant sorb and stack over 400 resists. otherwise slap a raven on and keep it under 399...

and how does anyone have an advantage when everyone has different gear for different types? better gear gives you the blind advantage but skill always wins.




agreed. its 99% the same except you cant mass stack AND sorb... jesus christ.

This post was edited by Delta9TetrahydroCannabinol on Jan 9 2011 10:59pm

I'll draft up my own set of rules based off these and ill run it by a few people and ser what they think.
A lot of these ideas are set down due to the availability of certain items. I'll work on it tomorrow and make it as fair as possible w\o any b.s.

No more than 13x 20/17's small charms are allowed. - why? if i want to lose dmg for more life/mana why cant i? its not ilke im gunna show up on a 13k mana bmana sorc, its gunna be a fb'er doing 12k dmg, with 6k mana, who cares?
No more than 10x life/resist small charms is allowed. - why? if i want to lose dmg bc im having res problems why cant i?

Stack Item Description:
Any 1 item that gives over 65 resistance (66 or more) - why? and why 65? so i cant use a 70 res sanctuary, but if i reroll it to not perf its ok?

Resistances and Absorb:
if your cold resist exceeds 400, you may not wear a ravenfrost...even if none of your gear includes a stack item. - GOOD, this is the ONLY rule you needed to add
You may only use one item to stack your resistances. - why? if i want to use waterwalks + vex'd helm what difference does it make? 85 res is 85 res
You may use one item of absorb or max resistance in conjunction with one item used to stack your resistances - why? so if i kira + wizzy and still dont have 400 res what does it matter if i use a raven?


Resistances and Absorb Exceptions:
Nightwing is not considered an absorb item. - is blackoak? rising sun? both are also just integir
Vs Cold Sorcs: If you use the allowed 1 stack item you may not use cold absorb or max resistances. - again, why? if i have 200 total res with a wizzy why cant i use a raven?
Es vs Vita duels: Both parties may obtain up to 85% max resistance (assuming it doesn't interfere with the mitigation rule) - um what...? are you serious? 80 res + mana pots is already a way bigger advantage than ppl give it credit for, just bc ppl dont take advantage of this properly doesnt mean it needed increased

If a 200fcr/86 fhr Lite sorc is played right, its the best for svs and thats my personal favorite for svs.

I say change the Es rules to 80% max resist, and no mana pots. If you give them 85% Resist it takes less mana from them when they get hit, and there using mana pots and on top of it you make them like a vita sorc when there es breaks cause now they have 85% resist. You can just play defensively as hell and win with a es sorc with these rules.

This post was edited by numone on Jan 9 2011 11:22pm

there isnt one type of es... anything over 85% es cannot use mana pots. and inferno's have always been gm. if vita's can wear them why cant es.

the only thing that changed is no sorb AND 400+ resists. nothing else is changing..

This post was edited by Delta9TetrahydroCannabinol on Jan 9 2011 11:41pm

it wasn't gm back when i use to svs, and your giving them double tanking cause they can out tank a vita sorc if they get hit one here and one there.

svs1///gm if anyone wants to mess around do some practicing

so i cant use max cold res and wiz spike? this is retarded, u cant cater rules to one type of sorc