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Aug 24 2010 04:28am
Set slow target limit to 0. Don't encourage bugbelt usage imo.
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Aug 24 2010 04:31am
Quote (Minstrelboy @ Aug 24 2010 11:28am)
Set slow target limit to 0. Don't encourage bugbelt usage imo.


sry but most of the players use bugbelt
at least its (almost) standard in gm ffa bvb.
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Aug 24 2010 05:02am
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sry but most of the players use bugbelt
at least its (almost) standard in gm ffa bvb.


I can see several peope on the list not using it at all.

It can be semi-standard only via using unperm ones, where is the fairness in that?
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Aug 24 2010 05:11am
Quote (Minstrelboy @ Aug 24 2010 12:02pm)
I can see several peope on the list not using it at all.

It can be semi-standard only via using unperm ones, where is the fairness in that?


The rules on the graphic are not made by me.
These are the GM FFA BvB Rules and i will not change them since most of us are accustomed to this for a long time now.

I have put an additional banned item to the list for this league though which is Hybrid Grief (and other Hyb Rws too).
If this weapon would be used by many / become a standard-bvb-weapon, i would have to remove it from ban-list again ofc. But until this is not the case, it stays there.

We can argue about it now but like Verdungo and rare bvb belt, siggards stealth bugbelt is a bvb belt.

Another point: If i removed bugbelt from list, i would have to ban Zodbugged Items too (Bug Fury, Zodbugged Arreat).

The damage done to most gm ffa bvb players who worked hard to build their builds is less by adding a NEW Ban which nobody (as far as i know) uses at the moment than by removing an accustomed belt.
Ofc i understand your point - please dont misunderstand me.

This post was edited by Argand on Aug 24 2010 05:12am
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Quote (Minstrelboy @ 24 Aug 2010 11:02)
I can see several peope on the list not using it at all.

It can be semi-standard only via using unperm ones, where is the fairness in that?


Tell me where u can see this pls :huh:
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Aug 24 2010 05:14am
Quote (Argand @ Aug 24 2010 11:11am)
The rules on the graphic are not made by me.
These are the GM FFA BvB Rules and i will not change them since most of us are accustomed to this for a long time now.

I have put an additional banned item to the list for this league though which is Hybrid Grief (and other Hyb Rws too).
If this weapon would be used by many / become a standard-bvb-weapon, i would have to remove it from ban-list again ofc. But until this is not the case, it stays there.

We can argue about it now but like Verdungo and rare bvb belt, siggards stealth bugbelt is a bvb belt.

Another point: If i removed bugbelt from list, i would have to ban Zodbugged Items too (Bug Fury, Zodbugged Arreat).

The damage done to most gm ffa bvb players who worked hard to build their builds is less by adding a NEW Ban which nobody (as far as i know) uses at the moment than by removing an accustomed belt.


I guess anything in a limited/mostly available in unperm form supply shall be taken out. It's a question of the will and common sense, not habit, tokens are infinite.

Tell me where u can see this pls :huh:

I know them, that is all.

This post was edited by Minstrelboy on Aug 24 2010 05:15am
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Aug 24 2010 05:19am
All in all, you have to see that this first season is... the FIRST season for this league :)
This will be something like a prototype.

Unfortunately a FFA BvB League never existed in europe and i thought that its time to change this now.
So please lets just try it out now and in the further future, we will see what works and what not :)

In another point, i have to defend the bvb players who play bvb for a long time now.
They have put so much effort and time (even years) in building their barbs, getting their equipment etc that it would be unfair if i would take an accustomed item out of their equipment just to make it fair for players who only play bvb since a few weeks/maybe months.


Also if we would add more item-bans to the rules, this wouldnt be GM FFA anymore - it would be AoW.

This post was edited by Argand on Aug 24 2010 05:20am
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Aug 24 2010 05:27am
START: THIS SUNDAY (August 29)
END: 28 Days Later (hm... sounds familiar xD ) <--- maybe before if all duels are done!

Right now i am thinking about a points-system:

1 Duel: Best of 9 (normally it is Best of 7, but i thought that max 7 rounds are too short for a league-duel - so: winner is who killed his enemy five times first)

You get 1 Point for each kill
5 Additional Points if you win the duel.

Means: You can get 10 Points if you win and if you lose, you can get up to 4 Points)


But this is not sure atm! Just a thought of mine.
You will get more information in the coming 3-4 days
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All in all, you have to see that this first season is... the FIRST season for this league :)
This will be something like a prototype.

Unfortunately a FFA BvB League never existed in europe and i thought that its time to change this now.
So please lets just try it out now and in the further future, we will see what works and what not :)

In another point, i have to defend the bvb players who play bvb for a long time now.
They have put so much effort and time (even years) in building their barbs, getting their equipment etc that it would be unfair if i would take an accustomed item out of their equipment just to make it fair for players who only play bvb since a few weeks/maybe months.


Also if we would add more item-bans to the rules, this wouldnt be GM FFA anymore - it would be AoW.


It was an opinion expressed ofc, take it that way. I still think rules shall be revised time and again, following the changes of the game itself. In the long run, it's the logical and decent thing to do. I don't really care what the ruel book is called.

This post was edited by Minstrelboy on Aug 24 2010 05:29am
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It was an opinion expressed ofc, take it that way. I still think rules shall be revised time and again, following the changes of the game itself. In the long run, it's the logical and decent thing to do.


i agree with you.
thats why i say: Hybrid RWs are not allowed atm - but maybe in the future? lets see what happens.
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