You can BAN certain pieces of gear for unbalancing abilities they give.. But you CANNOT ban physical game mechanics... -- And the ability use them.. Its almost like banning frw charms-- so one person cant run faster then the other. -- Its rediculous.

--Rare items spawn with rep... -- to make a ring useless because it has rep is unfair also. Rare items also can spawn with CTC.. Which depending on what it is, is already banned.

--the rules are in place for todays 1.10+ Amazon... They all make sense.



If you were educated on the subject, you simply wouldn't have asked the lacerator question. -- Stupidity, pushing buttons for no reason.
I understand this is not WOW, NOR an MMO. -- HOWEVER that means nothing, again... Line of sight is Line of sight... No matter how its looked at. -- People do it simularly in this game, as they do in other games-- Either past or preasant.

--Cut the spam in here. this is now turning into punches, and coming off of the straight Amazon topic. Its not nesicary.

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Mar 23 2011 01:05pm

I would have to agree that Guru does l8z more than anyone else i've ever dueled. And JSP_Homeboy uses corners/ houses just as much.

I also agree that the rep limit could go down. 15-25 is fair enough. Dungo's and a 20-15/9rep Ring is more than plenty.

Tip on the Pure bow/Cta in off hand. This would only be solved by making Glass zons to compensate for the increase of life/dr ratio. This is how it should be regardless. Vita is all fine and dandy, but only true skill is excepted when everyone has "no life" and has to duel like they're in a corner. Duels will always be intense and more straight forward compared to what is is today.

Mostly the only reason i haven't come back. Its nothing but High rep and gaze builds. Luck of spam is all its come down too or cheap rush namelocks. <- This is no fun

Just my two cents

Okay this is like the fourth time you've said "rediculous" the word is RIDICULOUS.

You clearly have no valid argument to support your claims as you are automatically dismissing my arguments with faulty assessments that do not apply to logic by any reasonable means here.

CTC isn't banned on rings lol.

13 life rep is all you need, you only need dungos Your decision making on what rings you buy isn't my concern. If you bought a lacerator should I modify the rules because you wasted money on one? You really have no argument to support your claim, except that you and a few others want less bowa dueling and more invisible arrow dueling and running around like mindless fools waiting for your red ball to fill up.

This post was edited by mewi on Mar 23 2011 01:16pm

tell em like it is sista

I haven't dismissed any arguements. In fact, i gave them a chance, and you a chance to explain why a 0-13 rep would be allowed.
But you clearly missed that, and my point. -- I'm not here to better my play style... -- on the Contrary;.. I Don't run around and rep, I would rather stay on screen.

With that, and i hate to throw more punches, but your claim of me being uneducated was uncalled for..
It is seeming as if you would change the rules to benefit your build//playstyle, and then join the ladder again possibly?

Imo the rules are fine. -- I haven't been here long, and this is my impression of how it should all be played. Things seem balanced.

--Though, as you are not on the ladder, and this can easily be seen as flame, i'm going to stop reply.

And expect you to drop the topic in here as well. Please keep spam to a minimum.

I'm saying it shouldn't be, I should have done more though testing before getting that number.
30 is a breakpoint for rep life and I didn't know that before.
The whole reason it was raised before is to open up more gear options, so even just lowering it to 25 will stop the massive amount of life gained from rep, while still giving us those tools to use.

Discuss.



She is a old member of this concept so she does have her say. So both please be respectful.
I would like to just spend 1-2 more pages resolving this.

This post was edited by LOLRagezzz on Mar 23 2011 01:29pm

Wrong again, times 10 thousand? By the way I am Engel You will find my name on the first post of this thread. ( recent name change )

I told you to educate yourself on my previous posts because you told me to "read the rules," Why would I be here complaining about a part of the "rules" if I did not read them first? That isn't very logical sir. I also did not say you were generally "Uneducated"

Myself being a part of this ladder is irrelevant, I am a far older zon duelist than probably everyone here, I was part of the original amapk, I was here before amapk even existed. It isn't really a matter of joining the ladder. Keep in mind, I also created some of the rules involved IN this ladder.

Also it is clear that people are abusing the life replenish rule very much, limiting life replenish to 13 would be the best solution to that abuse. While not solving the problem entirely it would be limiting how much they can abuse it.

I think possibly a 2 item limit to replenish would be fair//restrict it enough.
Thoes could be whichever you chose. -- this again will open up new builds, as there would be new restrictions.. -- Ow belts perhaps > dungos..

--Maybe to a max or 22? -- Thats another issue.. because boots can have 15, and a dungos 13.. =28..
Or restrict to a Dungos (13) and a possible ring(9) .. For a cap of 22?

:X -- I also appologize, mewi... I honestly did not mean to dismiss you in any way there...

Edit: I'm not going to quote the post above... But it seems she is upset with what i said.. :/ -- I've been playing on Battle.net since 1997. d1-sc... I started d2 in 1.03. I had an amazon at level 81 by 1.05. --- But this is absolute silly discussion. When you started playing means nothing. I duel in d1//d2//other games avidly, and am a prt of this ladder now.

--Again, i appologize, but there is no need for this..

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Mar 23 2011 01:39pm

Replenish Life

(25 * (+Replenish life)) / 256 = Life Per Second

E.g:

+10 Replenish life

(25 * (+Replenish life)) / 256 = Life Per Second
= (25 * (10)) / 256
= (250) /256
= 0.98 Life Per Second



No problem ^^

This post was edited by mewi on Mar 23 2011 01:34pm

0.9765... round up 0.98= (25 * (10)) / 256

2.92= (25 * (30)) / 256

1.27= (25 * (13)) / 256