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May 6 2011 02:43pm
Quote (trix123 @ May 6 2011 03:40pm)
id like to see the difference between hspurs and infernos
i tank 6 fbs on average with infernos and almost 3.3k life
every seems to be able to tank 10+ ice blasts

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This. Also we should take into consideration the fcr difference between 105 cold and 200 fb sorcs and the stomping power of ib vs. fireball (which travels faster). I do 11k ib damage and I do 400 health damage to Mangsong each iceblast. His fireball takes ~700 life from me each hit. Maybe I'm just bitter ;) but there's something to be said that the top 10 are all fireballers (except Aoz. because he's just gosu).

This post was edited by AvanineCommuter on May 6 2011 02:45pm
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May 6 2011 02:52pm
Quote (AvanineCommuter @ May 6 2011 04:43pm)
This. Also we should take into consideration the fcr difference between 105 cold and 200 fb sorcs and the stomping power of ib vs. fireball (which travels faster). I do 11k ib damage and I do 400 health damage to Mangsong each iceblast. His fireball takes ~700 life from me each hit. Maybe I'm just bitter ;) but there's something to be said that the top 10 are all fireballers (except Aoz. because he's just gosu).


700? try getting some fire resist. he does 21k dmg from his screen shots which is 535 dmg per shot
if hes wearing <400 + raven with 11k ib u can be doing 750 dmg per shot
imho though, sorcs shouldnt be able to exceed 410 cr, even without raven

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May 6 2011 02:54pm
Quote (AvanineCommuter @ May 6 2011 03:43pm)
This. Also we should take into consideration the fcr difference between 105 cold and 200 fb sorcs and the stomping power of ib vs. fireball (which travels faster). I do 11k ib damage and I do 400 health damage to Mangsong each iceblast. His fireball takes ~700 life from me each hit. Maybe I'm just bitter ;) but there's something to be said that the top 10 are all fireballers (except Aoz. because he's just gosu).



also gota take in consideration bliz ^^ but i see ur reasoning ofc :)

if rules are changed id brg back adict <3

but maybe we should jus make a bliz v bliz ladder :O
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May 6 2011 03:00pm
Quote (Skibum @ May 6 2011 04:52pm)
700? try getting some fire resist. he does 21k dmg from his screen shots which is 535 dmg per shot
if hes wearing <400 + raven with 11k ib u can be doing 750 dmg per shot


wether the math is exact or not it really doesnt matter lol
i dont think any of the top fbers cant reach over 400 cr
meaning ib still does only half the dmg of an average 200fcr fb
i dont think its a coincidence that 90% of the ladder is fbers :wacko:
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May 6 2011 03:03pm
Quote (trix123 @ May 6 2011 05:00pm)
wether the math is exact or not it really doesnt matter lol
i dont think any of the top fbers cant reach over 400 cr
meaning ib still does only half the dmg of an average 200fcr fb
i dont think its a coincidence that 90% of the ladder is fbers  :wacko:


at minimum, if they're gm your 11k will do 470 dmg.
if they're taking less than that then they are bming you

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May 6 2011 03:03pm
Quote (Skibum @ May 6 2011 03:52pm)
700? try getting some fire resist. he does 21k dmg from his screen shots which is 535 dmg per shot
if hes wearing <400 + raven with 11k ib u can be doing 750 dmg per shot
imho though, sorcs shouldnt be able to exceed 410 cr, even without raven


Taking the # from his screen where he lost ~400 life from an ib hit. but yea I don't know why I took so much dmg from his fb, it could be in combo with the ts too (my light res isn't maxed ><).

Going by your math hotspurs would let a 3k life blizzer tank ~9 fireballs whereas the fber can tank ~7 ibs. Is this really IMBA?

This post was edited by AvanineCommuter on May 6 2011 03:11pm
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May 6 2011 03:04pm
gds i won


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Quote (Skibum @ May 6 2011 03:52pm)
700? try getting some fire resist.  he does 21k dmg from his screen shots which is 535 dmg per shot
if hes wearing <400 + raven with 11k ib u can be doing 750 dmg per shot
imho though, sorcs shouldnt be able to exceed 410 cr, even without raven


410 would b actualy rly nice, cuz alot of ppl would switch to <400 and raven which means they rly cant be 200fcr, cuz of wizzy.

so theyd have to choose 200fcr n tank less or 105 n tank good.

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May 6 2011 03:07pm
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Taking the # from his screen where he lost ~400 life from an ib hit. but yea I don't know why I took so much dmg from his fb, it could be in combo with the ts too (my light res isn't maxed ><).


well if your -cr isnt very high then, youll do less dmg ofc.
the minimum was calculated with like -235 -250 cr
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May 6 2011 05:01pm
Quote (Skibum @ May 6 2011 04:07pm)
well if your -cr isnt very high then, youll do less dmg ofc.
the minimum was calculated with like -235 -250 cr



vouch
it takes 10 iblasts to kill me and it takes 8 fireballs to kill me
fair imo.
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