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Mar 21 2016 07:53pm
Quote (Weapons @ Mar 21 2016 07:51pm)
Wtf u talkin about lol.. theres more to V/T then spamming hammers, go make a hammer ladder, lmk know how it gos lol


Ive played vt for 5+ years....

Vt vs all requires actual skill

Vt vs vt/smite/vc/ whatever u wanna call it is most damach/life and ignore fcr/fhr and charge smite engage or upsmite to death..
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how does a bowa take more skill?

bvc DOES take skill (mostly tele and short ww) but.... vt uses tele too... and foh... and charge to sync (same as your hdin) also hf.... and smite... and tries to use kb... and has to keep charge to a min so your block isn't shit....

4 auras.... 3 skills.... no other char is even close to that many hotkeys....


Its not always about the hotkeys though?.. smite doesnt miss... barbs have to clip certain chars to not get hit[smiters being one].. short ww for maximum free ww hitchecks and stun.. and its how the character plays? Lol
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Quote (Prominence @ Mar 22 2016 01:53am)
Ive played vt for 5+ years....

Vt vs all requires actual skill

Vt vs vt/smite/vc/ whatever u wanna call it is most damach/life and ignore fcr/fhr and charge smite engage or upsmite to death..


suppose we should try and not spam in here :P

but vt vs smite and smite vs smite requires skill to use and negate sync... i'll admit that pure svs doesn't take tons of skill.... but vt vs smite does... especially if you're a lower lvl vt or dont have a sexy of gears....

and vt vs vt is WAY more skill than gears....

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Quote (Prominence @ Mar 22 2016 01:55am)
Its not always about the hotkeys though?.. smite doesnt miss... barbs have to clip certain chars to not get hit[smiters being one].. short ww for maximum free ww hitchecks and stun.. and its how the character plays? Lol


yeah i see what you're saying... but IMO char "difficulty" would be a combo of 1) any type of skill required in duels (such as teles, short ww, upsmite etc and tons of other for other chars)... 2 ) number of hotkeys you have to cycle through 3) dueling style (offensive vs defensive) and then 4) intangibles such as sync use and negation and several other things...

but vT still IMO takes the most of any char.... cuz it combines sooo many things lol

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ACTUALLY i would also say something involved is how easy you can get a kill WITHOUT skill

hdins with hardly any good gear and absolutely ZERO skill... can still sync and get kills... smiters kinda can.... but only vs shitty chars... i have been killed by syncing hdins that have absolutely zero skills haha shouldn't admit that... but i have just cuz sometimes you get hit with invis hammers... also hammers have a huge radius of effect

This post was edited by LordTrogdor on Mar 21 2016 08:02pm
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suppose we should try and not spam in here :P

but vt vs smite and smite vs smite requires skill to use and negate sync... i'll admit that pure svs doesn't take tons of skill.... but vt vs smite does... especially if you're a lower lvl vt or dont have a sexy of gears....

and vt vs vt is WAY more skill than gears....


If the skill is equal then items are the factor along with level etc ofc but we are assuming same lvls etc.. but the point is..you will not slam anyone remotely good with ur svs gear with no fcr...no.fhr
Ur dead to any decent nec[doesnt need to be a good.one either]..a sorc can out tele ur charge speed and ur 0 fcr teles... good druids will tele in get a nado in and get out and u cant chain chase w low fcr etc.. i can go on and on... it rlly.just doesnt matter vs barbs since ur both in melee and i dunno a barb that can clip a smiter perfectly in any duel

And once again ur comparing this to pub shitters not good duelers

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If the skill is equal then items are the factor along with level etc ofc but we are assuming same lvls etc.. but the point is..you will not slam anyone remotely good with ur svs gear with no fcr...no.fhr
Ur dead to any decent nec[doesnt need to be a good.one either]..a sorc can out tele ur charge speed and ur 0 fcr teles... good druids will tele in get a nado in and get out and u cant chain chase w low fcr etc.. i can go on and on... it rlly.just doesnt matter vs barbs since ur both in melee and i dunno a barb that can clip a smiter perfectly in any duel


Alright prom, we heard enough, thx for sharing.
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I cannot cure ignorance so yeah i guess but just know im right and it can be proven esp by posting/watching vids in sng with good duelers/experienced handlers at anytime

~outtie

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Quote (Prominence @ Mar 21 2016 06:53pm)
Ive played vt for 5+ years....

Vt vs all requires actual skill

Vt vs vt/smite/vc/ whatever u wanna call it is most damach/life and ignore fcr/fhr and charge smite engage or upsmite to death..


Join a vtpk ladder and I'll duel you with worse gear than whatever you use and we'll see what happens
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Imo SvS is solid shit, fun and less bs spamming everywhere, hammers is for thoughs kids that wanna feel good when a hammer hits someone lol.. old school imo..
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