Logic.

See guys, this is what the thread is for..."Discussion and suggestions". Awesome

I agree, this is a place for idea's..

We could just change the name to the "Nl Melee Ladder We're right and No" > Thanks for shutting up.

We did change some things based on the discussions in this thread.

When people rage/flame it doesn't help their cause and nothing will get accomplished.

This post was edited by dark-soul on Sep 22 2011 07:43pm

I understand.

I just wish certain people would respond in a better fashion.. that's all.

I don't think there was any amount of rage/flame that was not warranted in face of the response to suggestions that had occurred (immediate dismissal of suggestions without any adequate or logical basis, and refusal for even a proper discussion).

But anyhow... I agree, let's keep it clean and on topic as an intelligent discussion.

This post was edited by Christian_X on Sep 22 2011 07:48pm

agreed.



fair enough. Didn't help I was responding at work so didn't put to much thought in my responses. It does seem that other admins dont like the idea of poison being aloud because it would likely get abused and would be unable to enforce the rule since it would mean checking inventories every set/gear change. The reason the token rule was changed was because there was no way to enforce it and people were a using them anyway which shows you can't just assume people would abide any poison cap. Also if we changed this rule ppl would want other rules changed as well that were related to psn.

This post was edited by dark-soul on Sep 22 2011 08:30pm

We'll the whole idea behind it is to allow rare weapons (which there are some fairly nice ones with minimal amounts of poison damage) to be used. The only allowed poison damage is on weapons/armor. If someone doesn't have poison damage on their weapon/helm/gloves/boots/belt/armor/rings/amulet (which I only think it can spawn on weapons/circlets/amulets for rares, but who would use most of those anyways) and they're turning people green then they're obviously breaking the rules.

Yeah, I don't think think it will be much of a problem.. It wouldn't be a common occurrence, and when someone did turn you green, and your life went down an unusual amount (or at all, cuz the cap should be set so that you hardly lose anything), then you check. Simple. It really isn't that big of a deal, but it would add just a tiny bit more variety (I have seen a handful of godly eth fools weapons around worth using that are disallowed under the current rules). The lack of variety has been a huge issue with the UGML ladder for the past 2 years now, and imo, all efforts should be made to make any changes necessary to "mix it up", encourage new builds, and perhaps, even go as far as removing certain items/runewords from the BM list to balance out other builds with pal vis / shaft setup. That's why many, including myself, got sick of it and left. I love tap duels, but not without some sort of strategy in designing builds (that's the real fun in it).

If i were u id start to host pn tourneys again and change the rules to your liking and see how it goes. Who knows maybe i will change my mind