d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Diablo II > Diablo 2 Discussion > Legit Dueling > East Nl Sorc Vs. Sorc Dueling Ladder > Version 2.0
Prev1336333643365336633673430Next
Add Reply New Topic
Member
Posts: 72,267
Joined: Sep 9 2008
Gold: 43,291.00
Feb 1 2021 11:55pm
Quote (Fortnite @ Feb 1 2021 11:51pm)
Hey guys, So iplaycoldsorc/Gemmd/Adaptation all use the facet build where sorcs with 3.7k life are 4 hits. (Making this super unfair vs lower life svs sorcs who cant afford gg gear but want to join) AKA 2-3 Hits dead
I tested vs nick with 435 cold res it turns to 5-6 hits what its naturally supposed to be.

Would anyone be interested in setting up a restriction vs the facet build they use that goes around the rules since anya bug was patched ?
It seems like this build got a huge boost in damage and the resistance @ 420 isnt enough for us to able to be offensive vs them.

I concluded that the only fair thing to do is the following

Per Facet = 5+ Addition resistance allowed against said build (Max resistance 440 vs any facet build) but only +5 if 1-3 facets.
Refusal to show gear results in a disqualification and automatic forfeit.

I currently am running a 438 resistance build and its 5-6 Iceblasts @ 420 its 4 shots dead.

I believe by countering the the -resistance with more resistance it'll balance the field not only for everyone on the ladder but future players that use 105/117 Fire/Cold/Light builds.

Please vote here if you think this rule should be implemented and i can go over the details about how it'll be used.

https://linkto.run/p/JBWNHU62

Vote here


:blink:
i tank 6 fbs and u tank 4 ibs/bliz. ur 200fb, ur faster and ur fbs are faster
facet give -5.. so ur just negating the whole build by doing that
also biwinning about to 5-1 me again :ph34r:
Member
Posts: 33,655
Joined: Jul 1 2016
Gold: 0.00
Feb 1 2021 11:57pm
Quote (Gemmd @ Feb 2 2021 12:55am)
:blink:
i tank 6 fbs and u tank 4 ibs/bliz. ur 200fb, ur faster and ur fbs are faster
facet give -5.. so ur just negating the whole build by doing that
also biwinning about to 5-1 me again :ph34r:


I also have a 50k sorc with 3575 life vs cold.
Alot of players can only get like 3k-3.2k

Making it 3hits or 2 blizz's

its a unfair use of a build and something should be implemented to make it fair for everyone not just us svsers who have the fg to spend !
Member
Posts: 37,631
Joined: Oct 13 2006
Gold: 2,621.40
Feb 2 2021 12:02am
Quote (Gemmd @ Feb 2 2021 12:55am)
:blink:
i tank 6 fbs and u tank 4 ibs/bliz. ur 200fb, ur faster and ur fbs are faster
facet give -5.. so ur just negating the whole build by doing that
also biwinning about to 5-1 me again :ph34r:


:rofl:


ill 5-1 u too soon nick :D , im very sloppy atm need some pratice

This post was edited by Boored on Feb 2 2021 12:03am
Member
Posts: 72,267
Joined: Sep 9 2008
Gold: 43,291.00
Feb 2 2021 12:11am
Quote (Boored @ Feb 2 2021 12:02am)
:rofl:


ill 5-1 u too soon nick :D , im very sloppy atm need some pratice


i expected this last time XD

Quote (Fortnite @ Feb 1 2021 11:57pm)
I also have a 50k sorc with 3575 life vs cold.
Alot of players can only get like 3k-3.2k

Making it 3hits or 2 blizz's

its a unfair use of a build and something should be implemented to make it fair for everyone not just us svsers who have the fg to spend !


neither my ib nor my bliz does 1k dmg to life, so a 3k life sorc will still tank 4 ibs still. maybe 3 bliz
ib=9.4k bliz =11.4, not much dmg difference

Quote (tommyd323 @ Feb 2 2021 12:12am)
5-2’d nick with only 288 cr after Anya aka me being 2 shot
Gds ez ass cold sorc ;)


go away tommy :mad:

This post was edited by Gemmd on Feb 2 2021 12:19am
Member
Posts: 13,624
Joined: Apr 20 2010
Gold: 2,133.00
Feb 2 2021 12:12am
5-2’d nick with only 288 cr after Anya aka me being 2 shot
Gds ez ass cold sorc ;)
Member
Posts: 67,810
Joined: May 14 2008
Gold: 322,800.00
Feb 2 2021 09:42am
Quote (Fortnite @ 28 Jan 2021 00:48)


my fookin eyes!

fort explain wtf did i just saw
Member
Posts: 13,624
Joined: Apr 20 2010
Gold: 2,133.00
Feb 2 2021 11:27am
Quote (Gemmd @ Feb 2 2021 12:11am)
i expected this last time XD



neither my ib nor my bliz does 1k dmg to life, so a 3k life sorc will still tank 4 ibs still. maybe 3 bliz
ib=9.4k bliz =11.4, not much dmg difference



go away tommy :mad:


Just trying to give you more evidence to your sorc not being op, not exposing you or anything like that ;)

I do think your sorc could maybe be abused by another player dueling a certain type of way, but any sorc can as we’ve seen.

This post was edited by tommyd323 on Feb 2 2021 11:29am
Member
Posts: 46,339
Joined: Oct 30 2009
Gold: 69.69
Feb 2 2021 11:35am
The rules are fine. When you start messing with them you end up like they used to be when 450 200 Fcr FB sorcs were the only thing on the ladder. If cold was truly that OP you would see more than 1 on the ladder. If it comes to Nick rolling the ladder without losing then I'll consider changing it but honestly a cheap sorc vs one that has been invested into still requires the skill behind it to stay #1 on the ladder. Thank you for digging into it we'll keep an eye on it even if it only impacts Nick :evil:



Sign Up:


D2jsp Account / Character Name / Character Type

Temporary Rules:
1. If you are Last Seen 3+ days ago, your spot will automatically go to the challenger.
2. If your Last Post was 3+ days ago but your Last Seen is more recent, you have 24 hours to respond or your spot will automatically go to the challenger.

#1 May accept Wagers from other positions on the ladder for their spot. They are not required to accept and if #1 does not have the FG at the time they are not required to obtain the fg / accept the wager.

Current Standings:

#1. Gemmd / Adict / (Vita Cold)
#2. Boored / FutureTDS / (Vita Fire)
#3. BiWinning / Cruel-Genie / (Vita Fire)
#4. ShowCase / Kacie / (Vita Fire)
#5. Fortnite / Ethel / (Vita Fire)
#6. yoitsbick / yonko / (Vita Fire)
#7. Sparksfly / Syndra / (Vita Fire)
#8. Slau / Flirt / (Vita Fire)
#9. KappaDpride / flumpie / (Vita Fire)
#10. GravityBoarder89 / Vipermagi / (Vita Fire)

Current Challenges:

#8. Slau vs. #6. yoitsbick Expires Feb 4 2021 09:54am
#3. BiWinning vs. #1. Gemmd Expires Feb 4 2021 10:53pm

Defends as #1

41 Defends - Vincenzo
25 Defends - legen
25 Defends - Boored
16 Defends - Gemmd
16 Defends - urkel182
12 Defends - scboi
11 Defends - Drogba
9 Defends - Moneter
7 Defends - MajSlayer
6 Defends - Delta9TetrahydroCannabinol
5 Defends - AP28
5 Defends - GetFked
4 Defends - pro_baby
4 Defends - TSM
3 Defends - Randomletterz
3 Defends - tommyd323
3 Defends - Slaughtah
2 Defends - Maleficent
2 Defends - Adaptation
2 Defends - Stories
2 Defends - Tabuu
2 Defends - BiWinning
2 Defend - Fortnite
1 Defend - Pimpin_Nation
1 Defend - Garciaparra


Other people

Wyrmvater
1Wing
Truonk
Restomp
davmang


Dueling Rules | Challenge Rules | Current Moderators | Battlegrounds
Member
Posts: 54,635
Joined: Feb 14 2008
Gold: 2,958.00
Feb 2 2021 02:44pm
Quote (Fortnite @ Feb 1 2021 11:51pm)
Hey guys, So iplaycoldsorc/Gemmd/Adaptation all use the facet build where sorcs with 3.7k life are 4 hits. (Making this super unfair vs lower life svs sorcs who cant afford gg gear but want to join) AKA 2-3 Hits dead
I tested vs nick with 435 cold res it turns to 5-6 hits what its naturally supposed to be.

Would anyone be interested in setting up a restriction vs the facet build they use that goes around the rules since anya bug was patched ?
It seems like this build got a huge boost in damage and the resistance @ 420 isnt enough for us to able to be offensive vs them.

I concluded that the only fair thing to do is the following

Per Facet = 5+ Addition resistance allowed against said build (Max resistance 440 vs any facet build) but only +5 if 1-3 facets.
Refusal to show gear results in a disqualification and automatic forfeit.

I currently am running a 438 resistance build and its 5-6 Iceblasts @ 420 its 4 shots dead.

I believe by countering the -resistance with more resistance it'll balance the field not only for everyone on the ladder but future players that use 105/117 /Cold/Light builds.

Please vote here if you think this rule should be implemented and i can go over the details about how it'll be used.

https://linkto.run/p/JBWNHU62

Vote here



Example
Base rule = 420 resis

2x 5/5 Fathom/NW
Res now = 430

4x 5/5s armor - 2x fathom/nw 4x shield
Res now = 440 (MAX)


my sorc did just fine against his blizzer
Member
Posts: 33,655
Joined: Jul 1 2016
Gold: 0.00
Feb 2 2021 03:46pm
Quote (BiWinning @ Feb 2 2021 03:44pm)
my sorc did just fine against his blizzer


Mine did too the first ft5 I 5-1d him but I was forced to pl lay defensive
Go Back To Legit Dueling Topic List
Prev1336333643365336633673430Next
Add Reply New Topic