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Jan 27 2011 03:12pm
Yeah, thats not a bug, thats how the game mechanics work.
Still adds a bit of dmg
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Jan 27 2011 03:19pm
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Jan 27 2011 03:23pm
ive found somewhere mathematics to show how low % of double dmg is added when u associate ds and cs
its like 73 from pure cs, when u put 20%ds the chance to double dmg overall is like 80 something like that
i jsut remember reading this, lmk if im wrong >.<
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Jan 27 2011 03:27pm
Quote (CainC5 @ Jan 27 2011 04:12pm)
Yeah, thats not a bug, thats how the game mechanics work.
Still adds a bit of dmg


I remember awhile ago, Stephan explained this to me.
If you have 70% crits, and 35% ds(hlord only) you take the remaining 30% left over from crits, and you do the 35% ds from that 30%. Effectually giving you 80%ish double dmg from both.

Quote (rodpk @ Jan 27 2011 04:23pm)
ive found somewhere mathematics to show how low % of double dmg is added when u associate ds and cs
its like 73 from pure cs, when u put 20%ds the chance to double dmg overall is like 80 something like that
i jsut remember reading this, lmk if im wrong >.<



I think he removed it, but Arelax had a bowa guide awhile ago that explained this... I think he deleted it, cause I checked his guides in his profile and didn't find it :(


Side note, found this old old old ass zvz ladder topic from early last year. Good times to Jer n Stephan from the ol' days.. If you can call last year old lol

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=27497275&f=147&o=4960

This post was edited by SwanoW on Jan 27 2011 03:44pm
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Jan 27 2011 03:47pm
Quote (rodpk @ Jan 27 2011 10:45am)
its not a bug, its just they dont stack each other
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=39251415&f=169
# Critical Strike and Deadly Strike have the same mechanics and only one of them can trigger on any given attack (so a player can't get quadruple damage)
to quote this friend, as far as my bad english can undestand, u cant have 73crit + 20 DS.... u have either one or the other... they dont stack
thats what i meant




Quote (CainC5 @ Jan 27 2011 04:12pm)
Yeah, thats not a bug, thats how the game mechanics work.
Still adds a bit of dmg


Quote (LOLRagezzz @ Jan 27 2011 10:32am)
This is where Stephen comes in, hes the formulas man. :P



this

73cs + 56ds(foi + lords)

would give u approx. 88% chance to do double dmg,

73cs + 36 (lords only) gives u approx. 83% chance to do double dmg


chance to do double dmg = %cs + (100 - %cs)*(%ds/100)


if u do %ds + (100-%ds)*(%cs/100) you will get the same result. the difference is whether u think ds or cs rolls first. but like i said, either way its the same.

This post was edited by JacknSmoke on Jan 27 2011 03:51pm
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Jan 27 2011 03:52pm
iso zvz.
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Jan 27 2011 06:29pm
I got challenged by JSP_Homeboy, then CainC5, so I'm confused who I'm dueling, but I'm going on a snowboarding trip and won't be back until Monday, January 24, 2011. I get home from work on Monday around 8:00 PM or 8:30 PM EST. Let me know who I am dueling and I will meet them then.

This post was edited by ronnie17 on Jan 27 2011 06:32pm
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Jan 27 2011 06:41pm
4. LOVEtheWAYouLIE /JSP_Homeboy / sds13378You may challenge Arelax or Sutton, due to no. 3 being away, and not leaving a 2nd option. Good luck!

seas: You need to inform a medi about the challenge you were in. Did you get no reply? Did you both actively pursue a day for a challenge. LMK

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1. Movies / ccsutton / *sutton [Defended 19x 1st Spot]
2. Crits / Arelax / *SScali [Defended 2x 1st Spot]
3. Desynch / ronnie17 / *ronnie17 Vacatoin status until Jan 31th
4. LOVEtheWAYouLIE /JSP_Homeboy / sds13378
5. xCainx-CV / CainC5 / *CainC5 [Defended 2x 1st Spot]
6. PostIt / LOLRagezzz / *thetopdecker
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7. RuthlessBoa / RuthlessJon / *RuthlessJon vs 8. FuknHeadSplitta / FuknHeadSplit /* FuknHeadSplit Jan 30th
15. Lutera / C.r.u.e.L. / *C.r.u.e.L. vs 16. Shooter / seas / *Ox ~ Jan 22


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1. Movies / ccsutton / *sutton vs 2. Crits / Arelax / *SScali ~ 5:2 Sutton
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3. Desynch / ronnie17 / *ronnie17 vs 5. PostIt / LOLRagezzz / *thetopdecker ~ 5:1 ronnie17
4. xCainx-CV / CainC5 / *CainC5 vs 6. LOVEtheWAYouLIE /JSP_Homeboy / sds13378 ~ 5:2 JSP_Homeboy


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Jan 27 2011 08:08pm
ill challenge #1 then
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Jan 27 2011 09:19pm
Quote (rodpk @ Jan 27 2011 03:23pm)
ive found somewhere mathematics to show how low % of double dmg is added when u associate ds and cs
its like 73 from pure cs, when u put 20%ds the chance to double dmg overall is like 80 something like that
i jsut remember reading this, lmk if im wrong >.<


Real chance to do double damage = Critical Strike + (Deadly Strike / 100) * (100 - Critical Strike)

For example, with a 75% chance of deadly strike, and 25% chance of Critical Strike, the real chance to do double damage is 81.25%. Or 0.75 (75 divided by 100) times 75 (100 minus 25) plus 25.
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