This thread might as well be called "NL Melee Ladder Discussion of rules based without logical evidence or testing and their continued implementation & rejection of new rules and changes with comments founded in no logical basis and without any real support"

I would go as far to say that this attitude may have contributed to the slow death of melee in the past few months. How many people are on UGML ladder still? 15.. From over what, 40 in the past?
If it didn't contribute, this no change attitude certainly hasn't helped melee grow or evolve to keep up with the times.

lol was just stating the rule for GM melee of east since jess asked. Each ladder can have its own set of rules for ppl to follow while on that ladder. The nt ladder doesn't follow the standard set of rules for GM melee they made their own rules. Im no longer an admin of ugml so it wouldn't be fair for me to debate the rules. I just report the and it would be up to the council to do as they see fit.

This post was edited by dark-soul on Sep 20 2011 03:15pm

17 actually..more then 15 though and still going.

This post was edited by Neko on Sep 20 2011 07:32pm

Can't even take this post seriously tbh. Whenever there was an issue with rules it was discussed here and was resolved accordingly. Nothings set in stone.

Oh believe me, I was not expecting to be taken seriously. Or at least as serious as a good suggestion (aka not at all). I just felt like putting my feelings out there regarding the people who THINK that they run the show. I know full well my feelings are shared by many in the melee community, whether they post or not. This is for them. This is for the people. Never give up. Never surrender. Freedom.


Thank you

This post was edited by Christian_X on Sep 21 2011 07:07am

Still iso a reason why psn is ban on ugml west has a 50 cap limit. I just want to know why it's not allowed here.

1). It turns u green
2). It has always been like this and change is bad!!

Those are the only two reasons.

Perhaps you should call for a move to have that rule changed Jason.
Not sure exactly how that process goes.... I'm guessing the admin and assistants (3 out of 8 of which even participate on the ladder) vote on the issue?

lol this, its dumb to have psn banned

we aren't west? we are east? We do rules differnt then west does. If we allowed psn then we have to allowed Grief..

??? only admins does the voting on the issue not the assistants. I can't join the ladder because school is keeping me bussy?

Jason is not admin and plus he can't enforced it. He is admin on ugml nt soo what's point moving it to ugml hes going sell axe anyways lol.



If wasn't banned people will be using griefs, yeah no then we gotta make another rule and just go unban other rws on east since psn is allowed lol.

This post was edited by Neko on Sep 21 2011 10:38pm

Are you referring to this mod? "35% Chance To Cast Level 15 Venom On Striking". While Venom is a skill that does poison damage, the issue at hand is is regarding direct poison damage mods on weapons, not skills.

You are absolutely correct in stating that this is East and not West, and that yes, the rules are different. However, I believe Jason was looking for a reason why this is the case.

The suggestion is calling for an appropriate cap to be set on direct poison dmg, similar to other elemental dmg. If this is going to be a discussion, we should at least discuss the issue at hand (i.e., positives and negatives of a change in the rules) instead of simply stating obvious and irrelevant facts.



Not really sure what you mean by "Jason is not admin and plus he can't enforced it." Are you saying that only admins can propose a rule change?

Regarding what he is doing with his axe, that really isn't the issue, nor is that relevant.



Hmmm...Again, we are not discussing chance to cast high level elemental skills, we are discussing basic, direct poison dmg mods on a weapon. Irrelevant.

Now, if there were to be a cap established on the basic, direct poison dmg mod (as is the subject of discussion), and a runeword is currently considered BM because of having a poison dmg mod that would exceed this established maximum value, then yes, I guess that runeword would be "unbanned". However, I do not believe any runewords currently fit this category, so..... Irrelevant.