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Jul 26 2011 06:13pm
Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Jul 26 2011 12:58pm)
Ok, first of all, I had every intention on dropping this and not posting about it at all.

Here's how it came to light. A kid I know was in Pn 2 nights ago when I joined. We were dueling then all the sudden he whispered me and told me Stevo was prebuffing...I asked how he knew and he said he had an item checker and was looking at everyones gear, then proceeded to tell me what I was wearing. I didn't care at first at all, I usually don't. But he continued to use it vs me, then vs Kurok, then vs Diesel_fumes in the same game and never mentioned it. My friend said he could get a screen shot and send me the pics, but right after he said that he left (stevo). A few of us talked about it in the game after he left, and all agreed it was Bm.

As for Lee saying it is ok to put in inv. to replace a Sc, that is not true. I have asked Jess when I was still on the UGML ladder about that, because I wanted to do just that, put sojs,maras, etc inside cube, and put cube in inventory, and she said it was discussed and not allowed and considered Bm. So that's where my stance on this matter came from. (And I think you meant Glass house :P )...

I went to bed, and had literally forgot about it. Later that next night, I get a pm that he's doing it again vs other kids, kurok included again, and this time he got pics. When asked about it, he denied it. Said he was testing vs a smiter, and only once. So to add to the fact that he prebuffed he lied about it.

I admit I shouldn't have posted it in UGML, and I posted it in here right after I did, that was a mistake on my part, I apologize.

I know how you feel about imports Lee, but that is and will never be in the same category as this, no matter what you say. I take a strong stance on Bm, especially when someone lies about it afterwards. I have no problem with people testing shit in Pn, but to deny it, only makes it worse in my eyes. How can you trust someone who denies something so trivial? Yes I said trivial, because I don't think that using the Maras was a big deal, it's a bigger deal that he used the excuse that it was for vs Bm kids, then continued to use it vs 4 Gm pallies, and then lied about the use at all.


You guys can flame me all you want, but I'm old school, I feel that someone in his standing on an active ladder should know better than that, and I felt like it was my responsibility to let the community know of such acts, because if he is willing to lie about it, then who's to say he won't lie about it in an actual challenge?




#1 - Bro Are you out of your mind??? ...I never said that so plz read more careful next time. I clearly said I saw it being talked about and OTHERS didnt seem to mind, AND I Myself Disagreeed (READ)


#2 - I been taking it light on this import topic, BUT the hell if it isnt as bad. Import are HACKED ITEMS....PERIOD. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. It's not legit, its not droped...its a byproduct of a fukn HACK. And I'm personally tied of hearing excuses for them.



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This post was edited by Zealgasm on Jul 26 2011 06:21pm
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Jul 26 2011 06:20pm
*&^!__

This post was edited by Zealgasm on Jul 26 2011 06:20pm
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Jul 26 2011 06:29pm
Quote (Zealgasm @ Jul 26 2011 07:13pm)
#1 - Bro Are you out of your mind???...I never said that so plz read more careful next time. I clearly said I saw it being talked about and OTHERS didnt seem to mind, AND I Myself Disagreeed (READ)


#2 - I been taking it light on this import topic, BUT the hell if it isnt as bad. Import are HACKED ITEMS....PERIOD. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. It's not legit, its not droped...its a byproduct of a fukn HACK. And I'm personally tied of hearing excuses for them.



:bonk:




I think we both misinterpreted what was said. I didn't mean that you personally said it was ok, or that you agree with that tactic, I meant that Jess had said it was not allowed, disagreeing with your point that it was discussed and general agreement was that it was ok. I should have chose my words better sorry...

I know how you feel about imports, and I don't disagree 100%, but again what I meant was that not liking imports vs someone prebuffing aren't in the same league, at least I don't feel they are, and that is only my opinion, we can agree to disagree on this point. They aren't technically imports anyway, they are created in a legit manner, using cube + soj recipe (or whatever that cube recipe is), but they have 1000's of bots so the results are better. At least that's what I was told by someone who is very close with those sites...It could be wrong, who knows...I don't use a pally vis with my current setup at the moment anyway, gonna see how far I can ride w/o one :P

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Jul 26 2011 06:38pm
Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Jul 26 2011 07:29pm)
I think we both misinterpreted what was said. I didn't mean that you personally said it was ok, or that you agree with that tactic, I meant that Jess had said it was not allowed, disagreeing with your point that it was discussed and general agreement was that it was ok. I should have chose my words better sorry...


Far Nuff Sir

At least that's what I was told by someone who is very close with those sites...It could be wrong, who knows...I don't use a pally vis with my current setup at the moment anyway, gonna see how far I can ride w/o one :P



...think about it. Ofc those people with ties to the sites want us to believe that is how imports are made. Our foolish belief in that lie is better for there business.

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Jul 26 2011 06:43pm
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...think about it. Ofc those people with ties to the sites want us to believe that is how imports are made. Our foolish belief in that lie is better for there business.

"DONT FOOL YOURSELF"




Na it's not like that...I've known the guy for 4+ years, and he knows I don't buy crap any way...he runs clientless bots which is what a certain site uses also...my friend personally keeps up with 250 of his own robos, that's how I make extra fg, I sell crap for him...he's in Hong Kong right now...he's shown me a lot of stuff I didn't know about, like an exclusive invite only site that the high rollers sell/buy items for...etc...and I've done some of my own testing on the cubing theory...I mean think about it, if they were just importing them solely, there would be more of them on site, and with better stats imo, not mediocre ones or godly ones, but a steady influx of all around useful/good mods.

It makes more sense that their 1000's of robo's that they already run are cubing them, and they post the new ones as they are made...but again just speculation, we will probably never know what really goes on :P

I keep hoping one day I'll cube my own haha

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Jul 26 2011 06:59pm
If it was me doing this, I wouldnt give up pure godly circlets at will running wild all over my site. Thats not good for business. Instead I would do liek they are doing and slowly toss you people lil stepped on pixal crack rocks and every now and then let you bust a nut on some pure shit. And thats EXACTLY whats happening.

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Jul 26 2011 07:00pm
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If it was me doing this, I wouldnt give up pure godly circlets at will running wild all over my site. Thats not good for business. Instead I would do liek they are doing and slowly toss you people lil stepped on pixal crack rocks and every now and then let you bust a nut on some pure shit. And thats EXACTLY whats happening.

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Jul 26 2011 07:04pm
meh about imports, we won't do nothing about it because one reason, it's been what 3 yrs or so? i think maybe longer idk if someone told abit earler then we could've done something about it. i hate imports with a passion but it's wayy late to say it on that part, i'm going hong kong in few weeks, it's pretty nic e there. :p

on other note, using stuff inside pn is complete fine or outside of pn is complete fine because it's just friendly fun duels or test duels to see results but not during tourneys or ladder. that bs that happend shouldn't happend at all, it should be posting here or do it in pms or something else. :C


edit; i told people this long time ago about imports first time they got released all i hear was like, " how come it haven't poof yet" -_- i know lee had import circs few times but he didnt know :lol:

i show people this link which shows the first imports released to public http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=43868556&f=276&o=0#p292119505

but nobody listens or anything, meh! @_@

This post was edited by Neko on Jul 26 2011 07:07pm
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Jul 26 2011 07:15pm
imports ftw lee... :P

This post was edited by HormigaBrava on Jul 26 2011 07:15pm
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Jul 26 2011 07:15pm
Jess sell me your legit circlet. U dont need it ...go Hong Kong, then Japan, and toss me dah circlet before I sendz me ninjaz :ph34r:


Quote (HormigaBrava @ Jul 26 2011 08:15pm)
imports ftw lee


Yeah something like dat :rolleyes:

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