LOL

beyond that enigma gaff dude might be on to something with his suggestion

I have trouble imagining how that should work
You tele near the sorc, you change form, you shockwave him to have swirl, change back and start nado?
I was watching the duel and even the spider sin had trouble catching him with ow, spider could catch only a few times

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74659008&f=87
Or you mean something like this build ? I mean.... maybe this works against infy nova sorcs ?_?

Yeah, or tele behind her if she walks. It's about timing anyway.
SW -> swirl -> change back -> tele -> nado -> rip she

Hmmm
How many frames is the change form for druids?

0.59

wow i forgot how bad d2r looked during the alpha w/ the screen delay and everything. The devs improved it quite a bit since then

Yes still hard, but at least will give necs a fighting chance. Even if it does nothing because the sorc negates it with poison stack etc, at least it will forces the sorc to swap on some PLR/poison stack gear which will weaken them a bit vs traditional spirit train ibs method. And if they don't have gear swap, then the poison will do like 200-300 life per nova (won't be cheesy 1 shot pk).

With 1pt base (or through gear) poison nova, its still ES sorc favor, but at least its not 98% loss for necro anymore like it is in the current state. I've tested it and at level 1, psn nova with lr does less damage vs non-sorcs than teeth spam would. I recommend allowing it for this heavily 1 sided match up.

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Nov 14 2021 05:43pm

You cannot precast golem. Summons disappear. This havent changed in d2r.


You are using a +1 second mind blast where you have to be in melee range. It just doesnt work.


I am up to test this as a fire sorc if somebody wants. But I still see the matchup as sorc favored.

Sw swirl duration is 10+ seconds lmao.. its longer than lvl 40 MB with only 1 pt into it

I've tested it alot vs the best sorcs in the game which had 95 es 7k+ mana with bmanas and bugtals for DR etc.

Alot of the rounds I was barely taking damage meanwhile I just had to land 1 sw to win the round

And this was WITH wsg, its going to be near enough impossible without wsg

You are using a +1 second mind blast where you have to be in melee range. It just doesnt work.