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Jul 5 2011 07:58am
Quote (Neko @ Jul 5 2011 02:40am)
Since this is about nt rules all sudden :lol:



Not sure what's up with this but yeah it's pretty impossible tbh since it's differnt account/differnt name <_< it was aloud in ugml long time because we didn't had tokens that time and now we do soo it's not aloud anymore if you guys banned tokens then yeah it should be fine :lol:

but idk tis casey rules :lol: just sayin ^_^



Reason why, it's not affect by frozen because furys ias is based on weapons unlike zeal it's all about adding total ias like example! But I know for a fact it DOES affect Zeal. When someone hits you with any kind of cold dmg your ias will drop -20 which you need EXTRA 20ias to swing faster.



As for the first part, I don't see what the big deal is about switching to a different pally that is the same level, just a different name...Tokens have pretty much changed everything, not like the old days where you were one spec and that was it unless you remade entirely...

The second part is correct, Zeal gets rocked w/o CBF, which is another reason why I feel that it should be an option, not a requirement. Makes it more fun, you risk having to use a gear change to add spec if you guess wrong on your opponents build and they have cold dmg...


Quote (dark-soul @ Jul 5 2011 03:13am)
Not as weird as banning eprud imo.



That would be weird :P

Edc eats Pruds anyway...lol
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Jul 5 2011 11:17am
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As for the first part, I don't see what the big deal is about switching to a different pally that is the same level, just a different name...Tokens have pretty much changed everything, not like the old days where you were one spec and that was it unless you remade entirely...

The second part is correct, Zeal gets rocked w/o CBF, which is another reason why I feel that it should be an option, not a requirement. Makes it more fun, you risk having to use a gear change to add spec if you guess wrong on your opponents build and they have cold dmg...





That would be weird :P

Edc eats Pruds anyway...lol


well they just have diff rules for NT ladder then. Cnbf is never required in GM melee.
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Jul 5 2011 12:25pm
Quote (dark-soul @ Jul 5 2011 12:17pm)
well they just have diff rules for NT ladder then. Cnbf is never required in GM melee.


I didn't think so either...that was the debate, De said it was Bm not to have a Cham in my shield, and it was against the rules...I didn't see it in the rules so he said to post about it on here...
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Jul 5 2011 02:03pm
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I didn't think so either...that was the debate, De said it was Bm not to have a Cham in my shield, and it was against the rules...I didn't see it in the rules so he said to post about it on here...


No it's not bm in any form. Just like it's not bm to use exile vs a non tap zealot if you want to use exile. No one can tell you what gear to use on your zealot (well aside from things on the bm list). Not using a cham is risky since the other zealot might be using a cold dmg sc which would pretty much destroy your setup. On the other side it might be an advantage for you if he isn't expecting it. But in any event it's perfectly gm. Gm melee is about strategy more than anything so you need to prepare for whatever the other zealot throws at you.

That being said a ladder can make up rules however they want so they don't necessarily need to follow east nls gm melee rules. It would kind of discredit the ladder imo but they can do whatever they like.

This post was edited by dark-soul on Jul 5 2011 02:12pm
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Jul 5 2011 02:05pm
Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Jul 5 2011 06:58am)
As for the first part, I don't see what the big deal is about switching to a different pally that is the same level, just a different name...Tokens have pretty much changed everything, not like the old days where you were one spec and that was it unless you remade entirely...

The second part is correct, Zeal gets rocked w/o CBF, which is another reason why I feel that it should be an option, not a requirement. Makes it more fun, you risk having to use a gear change to add spec if you guess wrong on your opponents build and they have cold dmg...





That would be weird :P

Edc eats Pruds anyway...lol


It's huge difference because one pally could be differnt build then other :( i wish i can do that cuz my second zeal is shaft and my first is ggbane :lol:
yeah tokens did changed everything which is why nn change to switch chars you should always start bottom regardless if it's new char/diff name :O
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Quote (dark-soul @ Jul 5 2011 03:03pm)
No it's not bm in any form. Just like it's not bm to use exile vs a non tap zealot if you want to use exile. No one can tell you what gear to use on your zealot (well aside from things on the bm list). Not using a cham is risky since the other zealot might be using a cold dmg sc which would pretty much destroy your setup. On the other side it might be an advantage for you if he isn't expecting it. But in any event it's perfectly gm. Gm melee is about strategy more than anything so you need to prepare for whatever the other zealot throws at you.

That being said a ladder can make up rules however they want so they don't necessarily need to follow east nls gm melee rules. It would kind of discredit the ladder imo but they can do whatever they like.


Thanks for the insight and feedback :)



Quote (Neko @ Jul 5 2011 03:05pm)
It's huge difference because one pally could be differnt build then other :( i wish i can do that cuz my second zeal is shaft and my first is ggbane :lol:
yeah tokens did changed everything which is why nn change to switch chars you should always start bottom regardless if it's new char/diff name :O


I only switched chars because I am only using 1 pally now, and I want to use my main name - Michael. I asked for permission before I moved gear over, they are statted and geared exactly the same, and the exact same level, so I don't see why just because of a name change that I should have to reclimb the ladder...but that's just my opinion, and Casey gave me the green light so it's done...
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Jul 5 2011 09:24pm
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Thanks for the insight and feedback :)





I only switched chars because I am only using 1 pally now, and I want to use my main name - Michael. I asked for permission before I moved gear over, they are statted and geared exactly the same, and the exact same level, so I don't see why just because of a name change that I should have to reclimb the ladder...but that's just my opinion, and Casey gave me the green light so it's done...


just my opinion you should reclimb with new char but casey give you the green light then its fine, bleh! xD
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Jul 5 2011 09:44pm
Quote (Neko @ Jul 5 2011 10:24pm)
just my opinion you should reclimb with new char but casey give you the green light then its fine, bleh! xD


I didn't see a problem since its 2x different lvl 99's.. nor do I really care haha. :wacko:

Looking for admin like peeps for the NT ladder.. I'm way to busy to keep it consistently updated by myself since it just keeps growing.

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I didn't see a problem since its 2x different lvl 99's.. nor do I really care haha. :wacko:

Looking for admin like peeps for the NT ladder.. I'm way to busy to keep it consistently updated by myself since it just keeps growing.

:ph34r:


But it's different account/differnt char and prolly different stats :unsure:

so pretty much, you can switch chars any time u want and not remove urself?xD
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Jul 5 2011 10:16pm
Quote (Neko @ Jul 5 2011 11:45pm)
But it's different account/differnt char and prolly different stats :unsure:

so pretty much, you can switch chars any time u want and not remove urself?xD


tbh i dont see the big deal if u switch to a same lvl or lower lvl char of the same class since u can restat with a token anyway
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