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Jul 4 2011 03:37am
Quote (Ludafish @ Jul 3 2011 11:07pm)
Close but really far at the same time.

Rather than limiting to Rare or Unique items only.. All this does is cap builds.


Could be fun...how do we designate the points? Like wouldn't that axe of yours be a 2 ;) lol
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Jul 4 2011 02:23pm
Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Jul 4 2011 04:37am)
Could be fun...how do we designate the points? Like wouldn't that axe of yours be a 2 ;) lol


No, any rare would be 1 point.

People would essentially have to wear at least 2x rare/magic/set items to compete.. or just wear 3 uniques and not wear a helmet lol :D
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Jul 4 2011 04:30pm
Quote (Ludafish @ Jul 4 2011 03:23pm)
No, any rare would be 1 point.

People would essentially have to wear at least 2x rare/magic/set items to compete.. or just wear 3 uniques and not wear a helmet lol :D


So gloves and boots/belt/jewelery don't count?



Also, we have something new to discuss...it's not mentioned in the Nt rules or guidelines...


Can Not Be Frozen. Is it a must to have this? Like we can choose not to wear CBF if we want, but take the consequences if an opponent has cold dmg? There's some setups that don't require a Cham, some feel it's bm if you don't use Cham, others like my self feel it forces them to use a gear change.

Example, I'm dueling a cc Edc/Prud/Angelic setup, they have no CBF so I use a Jeweled SS to improve my setup. They can either duel as is, or add a Cold dmg sc to force opponent to use a Cham, nerfing that advantage.

I think it's a rune/jewel, so the option should be open to the user. Forces people to think more and counter more often, and can be an advantage both ways. Can either force an opponent to have to give up a gear change to put on CBF. I don't think it should be Required to have CBF though.


Thoughts?
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Jul 4 2011 04:39pm
Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Jul 4 2011 06:30pm)
So gloves and boots/belt/jewelery don't count?



Also, we have something new to discuss...it's not mentioned in the Nt rules or guidelines...


Can Not Be Frozen. Is it a must to have this? Like we can choose not to wear CBF if we want, but take the consequences if an opponent has cold dmg? There's some setups that don't require a Cham, some feel it's bm if you don't use Cham, others like my self feel it forces them to use a gear change.

Example, I'm dueling a cc Edc/Prud/Angelic setup, they have no CBF so I use a Jeweled SS to improve my setup. They can either duel as is, or add a Cold dmg sc to force opponent to use a Cham, nerfing that advantage.

I think it's a rune/jewel, so the option should be open to the user. Forces people to think more and counter more often, and can be an advantage both ways. Can either force an opponent to have to give up a gear change to put on CBF. I don't think it should be Required to have CBF though.


Thoughts?


Well to not use a cham is frowned apon
But I always rocked a 5-9/36 ar sc in inventory
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Well to not use a cham is frowned apon
But I always rocked a 5-9/36 ar sc in inventory


I don't see why it should be frowned upon though...it's just another strategy, and taking a risk. You don't know your opponents setup, so you risk having to waste a gear to counter cold dmg...same vice versa, you use a cold dmg sc to counter anyone trying to enhance their setup. I have a 3/20/5-9 cold dmg sc in inv. as well to counter that...

I think it should be optional just like any other jewel you put in your gear. It's going to hurt you more w/o cbf imo...
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Jul 4 2011 07:55pm
Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Jul 4 2011 06:02pm)
I don't see why it should be frowned upon though...it's just another strategy, and taking a risk. You don't know your opponents setup, so you risk having to waste a gear to counter cold dmg...same vice versa, you use a cold dmg sc to counter anyone trying to enhance their setup. I have a 3/20/5-9 cold dmg sc in inv. as well to counter that...

I think it should be optional just like any other jewel you put in your gear. It's going to hurt you more w/o cbf imo...


CNBF should be optional (this goes for Furys as well which at a certain frame aren't effected by being frozen), Just don't get caught with the short end of the stick and be forced to use a gear and lose a round due to getting busted. :rofl:

This post was edited by Ludafish on Jul 4 2011 07:55pm
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Jul 5 2011 01:40am
Since this is about nt rules all sudden :lol:

Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Jul 4 2011 01:48pm)
Switching Zealers -

Memnoch_thedevil2003/Jokes111/BigEl - Zeal --> Memnoch_thedevil2003/Michael/Michael - Zeal


Was told this was fine since both pallies are same lvl, and I'm no longer doing the UGML Ladder.

Dueling De now


Not sure what's up with this but yeah it's pretty impossible tbh since it's differnt account/differnt name <_< it was aloud in ugml long time because we didn't had tokens that time and now we do soo it's not aloud anymore if you guys banned tokens then yeah it should be fine :lol:

but idk tis casey rules :lol: just sayin ^_^
Quote (Ludafish @ Jul 4 2011 06:55pm)
CNBF should be optional (this goes for Furys as well which at a certain frame aren't effected by being frozen), Just don't get caught with the short end of the stick and be forced to use a gear and lose a round due to getting busted. :rofl:



Reason why, it's not affect by frozen because furys ias is based on weapons unlike zeal it's all about adding total ias like example! But I know for a fact it DOES affect Zeal. When someone hits you with any kind of cold dmg your ias will drop -20 which you need EXTRA 20ias to swing faster.

This post was edited by Neko on Jul 5 2011 01:51am
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Jul 5 2011 02:08am
Quote (F150 @ Jul 4 2011 05:39pm)
Well to not use a cham is frowned apon
But I always rocked a 5-9/36 ar sc in inventory


That's a new one. Assuming you're talking about guys on the nt ladder?
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Jul 5 2011 02:12am
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That's a new one. Assuming you're talking about guys on the nt ladder?


Looks like.
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Jul 5 2011 02:13am
Quote (Neko @ Jul 5 2011 03:12am)
Looks like.


Not as weird as banning eprud imo.
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