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I'm gonna.. keep waiting see what happens later or maybe for new ladder lol haven't played in months


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Jan 26 2022 02:39pm
Quote (Hamm @ Jan 23 2022 03:38am)
Yes can be hard opponent even for zealots,
You can see Jab Amazon pure gm melee dueler in my profile or also Jakee from useast realm had nice one ;)
My friend MrStyle have realm Matris javs also and top jaber.
Its passive Dodge skills and nice rare javelins will make
strong melee dueler.

Hamm europe
https://i.postimg.cc/WTYNkLmy/OLYMPIA-GRAND-MATRON.gif

Jakee useast
https://i.postimg.cc/5bpTYvGg/collage.gif
(They use hybrids and zbugs in melee duels in UsEast realm tho..)

Full small charms 37x 3max 15+ar 15+life or combination with +1 P&M skills 40+life grand charms depends on your feel..for inner sight level skill. This skill breaks defense of opponent.
Rare Eth Replenishes 2sk 40ias 400+ed matri javelins
Craft 2sk 20ias 10cb 10+str 10+dex 15+life gloves
Rare 2sk 30ias 80ed jwls diadem, not needed vision mod
if are rly gz stats..but you can get vision if want..

Rest is same as Melee Characters,
Fortitude archon plate (chillin armor removed before next duel - depends on duels rules)
Stormshield 15/40jwl
Gorerider 200+def
Highlords wrath amulet
Raven frost ring + Crafted 100+ar 20+str 10+dex 50+life
Cta + Spirit in switch for battle orders and Inner Sight Skill Casting to opponent.

You can try also steelrend gloves but craft java ias are better to jab attack speed break max ;))

Good luck with duels! ;)
Jab Amazon is like Female Zealot with Javelins in hand ;)


They get a huge advantage being allowed inner sight which is essentially a Curse.

IMO the rules need balancing if zon can cast inner sight opponents should be allowed CTC amp off Atmas or something.
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Jan 26 2022 02:44pm
Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Jan 26 2022 02:39pm)
They get a huge advantage being allowed inner sight which is essentially a Curse.

IMO the rules need balancing if zon can cast inner sight opponents should be allowed CTC amp off Atmas or something.



Given it’s balanced how it is, and amp being a 3x damage bonus for max DR users, that’s a dog shit idea.
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Jan 26 2022 04:17pm
Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 26 2022 12:44pm)
Given it’s balanced how it is, and amp being a 3x damage bonus for max DR users, that’s a dog shit idea.


It's not balanced at all :p you're a dogshit idea!

In 2.4 zon can block while dodging.

Zon in 2.4 is hands down the top melee class. It's not even close. They were #1 before 2.4 because Inner Sight is so fuckin' stacked.

This post was edited by ZeaLORDeaL on Jan 26 2022 04:21pm
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Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ 26 Jan 2022 21:39)
They get a huge advantage being allowed inner sight which is essentially a Curse.

IMO the rules need balancing if zon can cast inner sight opponents should be allowed CTC amp off Atmas or something.


Inner sight is allowed and fortitude too for zon and conc
in our europe league

Because Zeal is max damage and defense character,
with holy shield and crazy mallets/seraphs/baxes..
Top tier melee char for sure

So jab zon can lower defenses of opponents with inner its ok and has to be ;)
And so can duel zeals as equal opponent.

We dont duel with zodbugs or hybrid runewords in our
ruels too and you dueling with them i see :P


E/ You can play Zeal vs Zeal duels, tournaments whatever,
Brute fights,

But when you make league with all chars melee,
zeal jab conc fury
it is more fun and so must be allowed skills of chars that
benefit from them in melee fights to conquer in my experience :)

This post was edited by Hamm on Jan 27 2022 06:19am
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Quote (Hamm @ Jan 27 2022 04:10am)
Inner sight is allowed and fortitude too for zon and conc
in our europe league

Because Zeal is max damage and defense character,
with holy shield and crazy mallets/seraphs/baxes..
Top tier melee char for sure

So jab zon can lower defenses of opponents with inner its ok and has to be ;)
And so can duel zeals as equal opponent.

We dont duel with zodbugs or hybrid runewords in our
ruels too and you dueling with them i see :P


E/ You can play Zeal vs Zeal duels, tournaments whatever,
Brute fights,

But when you make league with all chars melee,
zeal jab conc fury
it is more fun and so must be allowed skills of chars that
benefit from them in melee fights to conquer in my experience :)


Yes its difficult to balance perfectly though. A zon with good java will outperform the best zealer. Bringing a 40k def melee down to 3k defense is broken.

The new buffs to dodge and block make amazon even more broken in melee on d2r she will require balancing.

Maybe I'll make a zon to prove my point ^_^
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Jan 27 2022 09:42am
Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ 26 Jan 2022 17:17)
It's not balanced at all :p you're a dogshit idea!

In 2.4 zon can block while dodging.

Zon in 2.4 is hands down the top melee class. It's not even close. They were #1 before 2.4 because Inner Sight is so fuckin' stacked.


Why would they need to block if they are already dodging? And you know that jab is already unint right?
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Jan 27 2022 10:16am
Quote (Belarathon @ Jan 27 2022 07:42am)
Why would they need to block if they are already dodging? And you know that jab is already unint right?


Because the dodge animation is longer than 4 frames?

Unint?
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Jan 27 2022 11:01am
Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Jan 27 2022 08:16am)
Because the dodge animation is longer than 4 frames?

Unint?


Dodge animation can also be cancled in 2.4 which basically means its 0 frame, and you can now block while attacking.

So zon will have dodge, max block, base crit, high dps and nullify melee defense rating.

Just need 100k javs and /melee league

Sounds balanced.
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