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Does anyone know the actual formulas for determining the ias bp's? That one i've actually just used the calculator for tbh.
Would be nice to actually generate the tables to show over 9 fpa traps and see how fast we can actually get if all it is a removed "cap"

btw, 174 sin with spirit pb is possible using full fcr gear. Def not ideal as you have no oak/sorb options/very low res with bos, but can use a 15 ias griff for that boosted -30 wsm -52 bos = 82 EIAS + 15ias base trap fpa going into the formula
Looking at the dl'd sin tables ive had forever, I could try and reverse eng'g the formula but sure theres a resource out there already lol

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I saw this new chart posted somewhere, haven't tested it myself

EIAS // frames
34 // 11
46 // 10
61 // 9
78 // 8
101 // 7
129 // 6

supposedly the frames can be calculated using
AnimDuration = {(AnimLength * 256) / [AnimSpeed * (AnimRate + SIAS + EIAS - WSM) / 100]} -1

I'm not sure where AnimLength, AnimSpeed and AnimRate come from though, and I guess its different for each attack.


So lets assume this little chart is correct then we can do some calculations

ias needed = ((120*(EIAS - Skill_IAS + WSM))/(120-(EIAS - Skill_IAS + WSM))

assuming EIAS = 120 * IASItem / (120 + IASItem) then we have (rounding all calculations up to the nearest whole number):


120 * (78-0-30)/(120-(78-0-30)) = 80% ias to get 8 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming no bos and gts)

120 * (101-0-30)/(120-(101-0-30)) = 174% ias to get 7 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming no bos and gts)

120 * (78-52-30)/(120-(78-52-30)) = -3.87 so 0% ias to get 8 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming lvl 19 bos and gts)

120 * (101-52-30)/(120-(101-52-30)) = 23% ias to get 7 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming lvl 19 bos and gts)

120 * (129-52-30)/(120-(129-52-30)) = 78% ias to get 6 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming lvl 19 bos and gts)


now lets say we wsm bug sq with gt so our wsm becomes -45 and we have:

120 * (78-0-45)/(120-(78-0-45)) = 46% ias to get 8 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming no bos and wsm bug)

120 * (101-0-45)/(120-(101-0-45)) = 105% ias to get 7 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming no bos and wsm bug)

120 * (78-52-45)/(120-(78-52-45)) = -16.4 so 0% ias to get 8 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming lvl 19 bos and wsm bug)

120 * (101-52-45)/(120-(101-52-45)) = 5% ias to get 7 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming lvl 19 bos and wsm bug)

120 * (129-52-45)/(120-(129-52-45)) = 44% ias to get 6 fpa trap laying speed. (assuming lvl 19 bos and wsm bug)



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Nah lol not that close :p just a buddy of mine but I'm at least trying to get these people the information to fix the one game I enjoy playing. Lol


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I did a little bit of testing when making the build shown in the video to figure out minimum IAS to hit the 'new cap' from:
Claw (Greater talon)
Gear
Burst of speed

Maybe this can be checked against the formulas above

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What the hell does FPA mean
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What the hell does FPA mean


frames per attack, based on the original games 25 fps display rate. so with 6 fpa you can throw all 5 traps out in 1 second
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^urkel182 ^legen

I did a little bit of testing when making the build shown in the video to figure out minimum IAS to hit the 'new cap' from:
Claw (Greater talon)
Gear
Burst of speed

Maybe this can be checked against the formulas above

https://i.imgur.com/6q8dg8I.png


Looks correct, using formulas above I get

bos lvl | required ias for 6 frame trap laying using 2x gt (includes mh claw+gear ias)
14 | 86
15 | 83
16 | 80
19 | 78


so yea your testing corresponds with the calculations


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frames per attack, based on the original games 25 fps display rate. so with 6 fpa you can throw all 5 traps out in 1 second


Quote (urkel182 @ Nov 4 2021 09:24am)
Looks correct, using formulas above I get

bos lvl | required ias for 6 frame trap laying using 2x gt (includes mh claw+gear ias)
14 | 86
15 | 83
16 | 80
19 | 78


so yea your testing corresponds with the calculations


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40 ias gt + 2x ias jewels in it + ias jewel in helm

with bos of at least lvl 15 you will hit stupid trap laying speed
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