Quote (StriferZer0 @ Feb 4 2015 09:47am)

Lol you're cute I would use my nec but you have to use ww xD I can nec vs spider I guess expect l8z =^)

Sure you can wisp vs my trapper on your ghost as far as hybrid vs trapper with wisp yeah okay let me Lo valk then ^_^

Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 4 2015 09:41am)

Yea give me a wisp and I'll gladly hybrid your trapper.

I only have a ghost and spider. Can't exactly duel a trapper on either of them based on these rules.

If u have anything else, Id gladly face it assuming you don't pull shit like token into a bvb against my ghost.

Quote (StriferZer0 @ Feb 4 2015 09:58am)

You're a broken record go away lol. Of course you would want ghost vs nec you're sad =)

Edit: I know a few people who would ghost you down with lo wisp rather then Tgods if only I had one *(

Quote (harumi @ Feb 4 2015 10:25am)

A spider isnt an hybrid mate. Your damage should almost be the same

Quote (harumi @ Feb 4 2015 09:25am)

A spider isnt an hybrid mate. Your damage should almost be the same

Quote (StriferZer0 @ Feb 4 2015 10:48am)

Forgive him he's new to Sins can't beat soso

Quote (yostraydog @ Feb 4 2015 09:05am)

Rules aren't tailored to make it a 50/50 matchup for a hybrid or ghost vs trapper, it's there to remove SOME of the advantage and allow a better chance at winning


And for sorcs, if you have any issue with a FB sorc on a sin you're doing it wrong, want to make it easier? Learn to use 174 so they can't run as easily and get better at walking FB's... Rather than redo rules to tailor to your idea of a disadvantage.

Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 4 2015 09:51am)

I never had an issue with sorcs either until I faced this one guy on d2pk (cant remember his name for the life of me) but it was "immune" and didn't die at 1 hp. When I get him low, and attempt to chase him for the killing blow, he will literally just run (without attacking back) and rep everything back up. Apparently this shit has infinite mana too...

Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 4 2015 10:33am)

If they exist, please send them my way. I've yet to lose to a ghost on a w/s trapper.

Go away? You're the one that's always trying to start shit with me. I don't agree with half the shit that comes out of your mouth either, but do you see me spam you with crap? No; I'm a little more mature than that.



That doesn't mean a lot. But here's two ways your statement can be applied:
1) Sin v Sin. Even if damage was the same, hybrids can't really get 40 life rep like trappers can. In a battle of attrition, which is what this will come down to; the trapper has advantage.
2) Because we know how who has the 60/40 advantage in nec v trap right?

Regardless, if he wants, I'll still duel him and throw my ghost claws on my spider if thats what he wants, but then he'll prob find a way to bitch at that too and make excuses to why my sin isn't a spider anymore.

Quote (Azn Masta @ Feb 4 2015 05:07am)

Consider a specific rule section for sorc vs sorc and sin vs sin. While I don't have much sorc experience, see below for my opinion on sins:

I would partially agree that Lo rune shouldn't be allowed overall. But I'd argue that hybrid should be allowed to use Lo or wisp if they so choose against a trapper (and vice versa). It's purely 1 sided in which the trapper can abuse higher damage/mana/40life rep and corner if he so chooses. Without the mitigated damage there's little to no incentive for a hybrid or spider (with lower ar and damage than ghost) to jump into 5x traps and attempt to ww against someone who has ~59-60% block. The "ability to ww" is essentially completely nulled. I speak from d2pk experience playing from both sides.

Also, I'm not sure if you've ever gone pure trap against a 7000 mana es sorc with life rep and wants to l8z or play just barely short of it. Fb poke out ranges trap poke and this match up can be surprisingly difficult against an experienced sorc who doesn't want to be caught. Chasing them down often results in at least 1 fb to the face only to have them wsg out and rep up once you "catch" them. Having a Vex to weaken the fb train spam damage will promote a more chasing playstyle and less camping play style. Anyway less concerned with this matter than the aforementioned one above.

My 2 cents