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Dec 16 2017 05:05pm
Quote (Garciaparra @ 16 Dec 2017 18:19)
in all fairness that list was created after our tenure on the ladder lol i have like 25+ defends myself lol

and yeah back when es sorcs could 10% stack was opay :hail:


just chain a es around the moor and win every time o.o

Quote (randywilter @ 16 Dec 2017 18:48)
remove me from ladder plz. randywilter//mop.


i challenged him and he left the ladder :/ zzz

Challenge #8
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Dec 16 2017 05:11pm
Quote (F150 @ Dec 16 2017 11:05pm)
just chain a es around the moor and win every time o.o



i challenged him and he left the ladder :/ zzz

Challenge #8


Pretty sure es > vita with bmanas o.O

Atleast when i had access to a es sorc on east i was shitting on any vita sorc, the sustain is too much for vita
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Dec 16 2017 05:12pm
Quote (Piwah @ Dec 16 2017 04:11pm)
Pretty sure es > vita with bmanas o.O

Atleast when i had access to a es sorc on east i was shitting on any vita sorc, the sustain is too much for vita


yh.. f150 is a silly guy.
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Dec 16 2017 05:17pm
Quote (Piwah @ Dec 16 2017 05:11pm)
Pretty sure es > vita with bmanas o.O

Atleast when i had access to a es sorc on east i was shitting on any vita sorc, the sustain is too much for vita


can you get enough mana on nl to take more then 2 hits without breaking es?

i haven't dueled many es svs sorcs but the ones i have dueled it felt like a big disadvantage, but that could be from ladder gearing.
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Dec 16 2017 05:21pm
Quote (ekoe @ Dec 16 2017 04:17pm)
can you get enough mana on nl to take more then 2 hits without breaking es?

i haven't dueled many es svs sorcs but the ones i have dueled it felt like a big disadvantage, but that could be from ladder gearing.


You never vs'd maxs es sorc.

Thing could take 3-4 hits without getting fhr'd or breaking es
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Dec 16 2017 05:21pm
Quote (lFuzzyl @ Dec 16 2017 05:21pm)
You never vs'd maxs es sorc.

Thing could take 3-4 hits without getting fhr'd or breaking es


interesting how much mana do they usually have with bmanas?
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Dec 16 2017 05:25pm
Quote (F150 @ Dec 16 2017 08:10am)
gonna run from the ladder before I get to top I see


Don’t worry I personally would do the same


Calling dodge on #12

Challenging #10


f150 lmao...

I 5-1'd you when you were a blizz sorc back in the day.
The only reason you ever took #1 was because Me/Vincenzo/Nick were not active. (Same with most of the good svsers)
Then when we came back and made it to the top you just left and tried to sell your sorc like 40x over.
Gemm'd raped you CvC aswell. Don't think taking a 4 year break and coming back would change anything.
You're talking out of your ass.

I already took #1 from vert he beat me back for it and i only come on the svs ladder once or twice a year remake my sorc take #1 then sell it.
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Dec 16 2017 05:27pm
Quote (ekoe @ Dec 16 2017 04:21pm)
interesting how much mana do they usually have with bmanas?


I'd say around 5.4k/5.5k mana.
With a DTM % with jewels and MDR gear.

Helps with tanking even more.
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Dec 16 2017 05:31pm
Quote (ekoe @ Dec 16 2017 11:17pm)
can you get enough mana on nl to take more then 2 hits without breaking es?

i haven't dueled many es svs sorcs but the ones i have dueled it felt like a big disadvantage, but that could be from ladder gearing.


because no bmanas on ladder..??
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Dec 16 2017 05:45pm
Quote (Piwah @ Dec 16 2017 06:31pm)
because no bmanas on ladder..??


No more than 10x 15/70’s are allowed OR
No more than 13x 20/17's small charms are allowed.

easily es is not at a disadvantage when using bmanas. 20/17's just cant stack enough mana to tank svs. if 20/17's were 20/36mana it would make more sense but blizzard wasnt up on their maths at the time. :wallbash:

20/17's do work fine sva in pubs or on esmb builds, elemental dmg is all that really fucks es up(outside the obvious hammer/bone/wind dmg). my es mb is basically a barb/zon/charger ender and she uses 20/17's.

This post was edited by GNX on Dec 16 2017 05:46pm
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