this ladder is the only true zvz amapkers left imo
when i zvz in pubs they make me cry
i dont like the torch glitch cause its harder in close combat to see where the arrows are
but i would agree to it

and please get rid of this faith bs

This post was edited by Heid on Sep 16 2009 03:42pm

Faith is gonna stay on these ladders but I'll poke around for interest on the amapk one.


The problem will be finding people bows. lol

they can use a wf lol
its really not that bad
or a bugged zephyr lol

This post was edited by Heid on Sep 16 2009 04:00pm

someone pm me to zvz

you know this ladder is based on zvz/zva.

there isnt enough people who will make a character just for zvz.
and if you really wanted to follow the strict zvz rules from the stone age.
most of the people cant even afford the rare items.

only 1 socket though

Hence this ladder is staying the same, but another ladder would be a possibility.


Maybe we could do it on d2pk, even though zons are trashy and overpowered there.

like a amazons dream shield would be

20/30 block 2 sockets life/resistance/life replenish low requirements (not a monarch)

no, pm me

I like my 17 fhr, 30/20, 2 sockets, 40 life hyperion trophy shield.


If only it had rep, prismatic, and it was dragon/troll :\