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Sep 25 2016 09:40am
Quote (Goldmund @ Sep 25 2016 11:09am)
You are delusional and thats exactly why this ladder is pathetic. 200 fb vs 200 fb. Worst duels in this game.
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You are blind to the facts you spit from your own tongue


You seem mad it'd alright.

I've never had anyone complain about es light sorcs. Having too many nick Nack rules is stupid. This ladder has seen #1 under all vita elements plus defends along with es fb.


Not sure if you pay attention but only 33% of the top 6 are 200 fb sorcs



This post was edited by Garciaparra on Sep 25 2016 09:41am
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Sep 25 2016 12:09pm
rules are hard to make perfect, and we have tried and done a lot of tests. cold sorc and es have always been the minority, and the ladder is racist towards them.. lmao

forces es and bliz to be defensive because they have the short stick.

but es and bliz have both taken #1 multiple times.

hopefully a new hybrid comes out that helps bliz some how... but doubt it.

only rule change id think there can be is lowering the cr to 415 or something but then there are ways to get a lot of -res and 3 shot a fb.

---basically just make a 200fb or know the struggle of a cold/es sorc :P
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Sep 25 2016 12:11pm
Quote (Garciaparra @ Sep 25 2016 10:40am)
You seem mad it'd alright.

I've never had anyone complain about es light sorcs. Having too many nick Nack rules is stupid. This ladder has seen #1 under all vita elements plus defends along with es fb.


Not sure if you pay attention but only 33% of the top 6 are 200 fb sorcs


You seem mad it did alright. Engrish is strong

Regular PVP rules have lots of "nick nack" rules. Your excuses are lame and further prove you are delusional


28 Defends - Vincenzo - es fb
20 Defends - legen - es fb
15 Defends - Gemmd - Fire and Cold
14 Defends - Boored - 200 fb
11 Defends - Drogba - 200 fb
11 Defends - scboi - 200 fb
9 Defends - Moneter - 200 fb
7 Defends - MajSlayer - 200 fb
6 Defends - Delta9TetrahydroCannabinol - 200 fb
5 Defends - AP28 - light
5 Defends - GetFked - 200 fb
4 Defends - pro_baby - 200 fb
4 Defends - TSM - es fb
2 Defends - Maleficent - couldnt locate his defends
1 Defend - Pimpin_Nation same
1 Defend - Garciaparra same
1 Defend - BiWinning same
0 Defends - TheBroodwich

Interest theories you have but clearly delusional

This post was edited by Goldmund on Sep 25 2016 12:17pm
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Quote (Goldmund @ Sep 25 2016 02:11pm)
You seem mad it did alright. Engrish is strong

Regular PVP rules have lots of "nick nack" rules. Your excuses are lame and further prove you are delusional


28 Defends - Vincenzo - es fb
20 Defends - legen - es fb
15 Defends - Gemmd - Fire and Cold
14 Defends - Boored - 200 fb
11 Defends - Drogba - 200 fb
11 Defends - scboi - 200 fb
9 Defends - Moneter - 200 fb
7 Defends - MajSlayer - 200 fb
6 Defends - Delta9TetrahydroCannabinol - 200 fb
5 Defends - AP28 - light
5 Defends - GetFked - 200 fb
4 Defends - pro_baby - 200 fb
4 Defends - TSM - es fb
2 Defends - Maleficent - couldnt locate his defends
1 Defend - Pimpin_Nation same
1 Defend - Garciaparra same
1 Defend - BiWinning same
0 Defends - TheBroodwich

Interest theories you have but clearly delusional


You should go back to the pvm forum. You clearly don't belong here.

Edit

I'm on a phone and don't want to type out shit so this is my best for now.


This post was edited by Garciaparra on Sep 25 2016 12:49pm
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Sep 25 2016 12:55pm
I have #1 defends on a es fber (primarily this), 105 tanky/higher damage fb, and the standard 200 fcr fber.


If i had to judge, id still say overall vita > es.... But each do have their own strengths, weaknesses, and different play styles. Frankly, the only reason i ever used a es sorc on this ladder was because i was looking for a challenge. I essentially theory crafted the strongest possible es fber under these ladders rules and proceeded to dominate a series of duels that just do not understand how es regen sorces work and how to beat them. In fact, id still wager to this day that i personally would have an easier time climbing back to #1 on a es sorc for that exact reason.

But id definitely never lose to a es sorc while using a 200 fcr fber lmao
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Quote (legen @ Sep 25 2016 06:55pm)
I have #1 defends on a es fber (primarily this), 105 tanky/higher damage fb, and the standard 200 fcr fber.


If i had to judge, id still say overall vita > es.... But each do have their own strengths, weaknesses, and different play styles. Frankly, the only reason i ever used a es sorc on this ladder was because i was looking for a challenge. I essentially theory crafted the strongest possible es fber under these ladders rules and proceeded to dominate a series of duels that just do not understand how es regen sorces work and how to beat them. In fact, id still wager to this day that i personally would have an easier time climbing back to #1 on a es sorc for that exact reason.

But id definitely never lose to a es sorc while using a 200 fcr fber lmao


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Says the former laughing stock of east who stole a 19 life/ fire res charm from a tourney partner...
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Quote (legen @ Sep 25 2016 03:55pm)
I have #1 defends on a es fber (primarily this), 105 tanky/higher damage fb, and the standard 200 fcr fber.


If i had to judge, id still say overall vita > es.... But each do have their own strengths, weaknesses, and different play styles. Frankly, the only reason i ever used a es sorc on this ladder was because i was looking for a challenge. I essentially theory crafted the strongest possible es fber under these ladders rules and proceeded to dominate a series of duels that just do not understand how es regen sorces work and how to beat them. In fact, id still wager to this day that i personally would have an easier time climbing back to #1 on a es sorc for that exact reason.

But id definitely never lose to a es sorc while using a 200 fcr fber lmao


well ur sorc is unperm in the first place, I use 20/17's, much greater challenge than a 10x bmana sorc for sure. Lmk if you wanna retry with more cr.
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Sep 25 2016 01:16pm
Lol, if you wanna see how broken 450 cr es sorc is vs blizz, i can show you... Believe i have the numbers some where if you more interested in how many hits ill actually take. Its pretty ridiculous

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Main talking points: You either need 5x back to back direct hits to break my mana/es, which then i may take damage to health.... This is probably actually ~6 since it doesnt factor in regen amount in that time of being hit. Otherwise, if you cannot break my mana (and you wont... i will go regen if low lol), its 25 hits kill me via damage to life.... Thats for 13k blizz, basically a pure dmg vita blizzer... On your 90 es blizzer its prob more like 9k, if that... Talking 40+ hits to kill me lmao





This post was edited by legen on Sep 25 2016 01:21pm
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Sep 25 2016 01:24pm
We do need to cut down the stack amount of es vs cold though for sure. Maybe to 315 or 300.

Mana potting can be up to both parties agreeing to use them in a duel. I'm cool with that

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