Quote (Stories @ Feb 19 2015 03:46pm)

No offense taken, I've beat him a few times in the past, but let's be serious for a sec, I'm tired of chasing es sorcs around the moor, and I'm completely within my rights/limits/ability to post another ladder as other ppl feel the same way, I'm fine vs es, buts let's try something new, we already know that es > vita

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No more than 10x 15/70’s are allowed OR
No more than 13x 20/17's small charms are allowed.

Quote (bit @ Feb 19 2015 04:30pm)

Honestly, I think this old and completely illogical rule is a part of the es vs vita issue.



That's 150life/700mana vs 260life/221mana.

Quote (Garciaparra @ Feb 19 2015 03:31pm)

so we should ban bmanas?

Quote (Garciaparra @ Feb 19 2015 02:31pm)

so we should ban bmanas?

Quote (bit @ Feb 19 2015 03:34pm)

Thats a question for you and the other more active svs guys to figure out.

I personally don't think they should be banned entirely.

But I think it's obvious that 13x 20/17s doesn't compete with them.

Not that anyone uses 20/17s in SVS, L.

Quote (Stories @ Feb 19 2015 04:33pm)

Would hlp a bit, need to fix the cr rule for es also

Quote (Garciaparra @ Feb 19 2015 03:36pm)

not going to ban an available item in game. AT best es can be limited to a certain stack amount vs cold.

Quote (Stories @ Feb 19 2015 04:40pm)

Not a legit item, bugged/imported, should b banned imo, but w/e, and on the cold ladder it's 399 cr, no use of raven if es, obv es can't b over 79%

Quote (Garciaparra @ Feb 19 2015 03:45pm)

so its SoP, and its allowed.

will have to do some testing on the cold resist limit