it shouldn't be banned imo, doesn't do any ele damage or magic damage or lower resistances. just lowers defense. would be the same as a pala using fana



no comparison, zerk = all magic damage


e/


btw, a new torch costs 50fg or less..

25% ctc torches should be banned, it will eventually happen you guys are just trying to prevent the inevitable...



This post was edited by sambo5 on Feb 26 2011 07:18pm

Let's ban torch then! ^__________^

Inner sight was never said to be bm on any of the gm melee lists and I could care less if a jabzon used inner sight against me.

lets say we did but didnt



same

sure u buy me 2x32020

so are we going to determine inner sight ANDDDDDDDDDDDD cloak of shadows are gm?

This post was edited by eric_mendoza on Feb 27 2011 11:50am

The rules are laid out and specifically state what is considered BM.

By pointing out certain negatives (i.e, what cannot be used), it would logically follow that anything else that does not specifically conflict with any of the stated rules would be considered GM until otherwise decided.

I am speaking in general here... just because someone makes a post in this thread saying something is considered BM, that is a simply an opinion. Whether this opinion is held by the majority or not, it would still be technically GM, in the sense that an issue has not yet been raised to a vote and a rule explicitly stating it as BM in the rules has yet to be made.

If this is not how how the melee ladder works, and is not the whole point of the organization of the council, someone please inform me.

That's dumb

i agree however when a few zealers start losing... it turns into a debat to make it bm... so im bringing it up now before i own the char, so that it can be listed IN the rules...
And the ZEALERS!!!! bend the rules meanings to fit themsleves, such as no prebuff... it was argued against cube bo partially cause its a prebuff... but not really -.- cause im not stacking up for it or hiding stuff in inventory for it... its kinda like holy shield except someone (before I..) found a clever way to get around lack of room
Im sure we going to bend the no prebuff rules to also include no cloak of shadows cause zealers wont like it... even though it is something that would be casted amist the bo/bc/hs/oak sage/ etc line, which all are not considered prebuffs o_O

i just want to see the rule so no qq

what dose cloke of shadows do for your assissnn? besides make me MC cuz yo go all ben 10 ghost and stuff? i dont see it as a problem nor do i see inner sight as a problem. jab and kick/claw sins need all the help they can get to try to compete