I am really against the use of fort (mainly chilling armor) for following reasons:

Skill definition of chilling armor:
The best defensive spell available to a Sorceress is manifest in this formidable armor. The spell actually defends against ranged attacks, turning aside arrow and bolt. Those seeking to engage the Sorceress shall soon feel the icy bite of their folly.

Effect: Confers a defense bonus and launches an ice bolt against ranged attackers.

Basically chilling armor has a good chance of absorb incoming projectiles, which makes the ZvZ duel unfair ------ because GA / Multie shot / fury are all considered projectiles. It doesn't just absorb, it also deflects a ice shard @ attacker which has a good chance to send the foe into dodge mode (loses another chance to attack)

So basically if two zons are 100% identical, the one with the chilling armor is like equivalent of having 3 times of the HP than the other one. And chance for that to happen is completely random. It's extremely unfair in fury duel.

I believe most people signed up for the ladder to test their skills, not because people want to bet on how often their chilling armor gets triggered/ whose chilling armor gets triggered first like a lottery.


I do understand that not everyone on the ladder can afford 60/160 armor, but I can help finding someone to supply cheap 15/40 @ 15 per if you decide to use 60/160 armor. Only PM me if you don't have & can't afford 60/160 armor and you are on the ZvZ ladder.

This post was edited by WhiteReflection on Aug 28 2009 01:15pm

i use it and i would personally love to see it go. i don't know why so many people base their builds around fort

wrong fort is fine no matter... That's ladder we signed up for and that's how it stays... Get over it

get the sand outta your pussy just because ur build is based around a fort doesnt mean u can cry

This post was edited by Raley on Aug 28 2009 01:25pm

well hopefully when ladder rolls we can get rid of it.

big girls don't cry...
Would ur mom be ok with u using these bad words like pussy?
I'm tellin

cry more about w.e u can kid if ur good with a zon changing around ur armors shouldnt matter

says number 13...
So your right, your bad either way...

Gds

rank doesn't mean much what if he isn't getting challenges or what if he has to wait the full dodge time to even move up?

Here's the deal on Fort...

I am ALL for removing it... on the NL ladder I'm going to somehow get rid of it.


Take this however you want guys I am going to get a LOT of shit from this post... mostly from Steve I'm expecting.
Not gonna have another 6 pages of spam though. <-


Fort is for 1.12 duelers who have no idea how real amapk is supposed to be played. This is the fort/faith era of zvz and it's as skill-less, cheap, and RNG dependant as world of warcraft.
CA is auto-win in fury fights as well as other things... but there are too many baddies crying about it that half my fucking ladder would quit.

The rules were made by Mew, and as much as I like Amie, she's teampk 11.b zon who can afford a 20000 fg zon.
There are like 4 ppl on jsp who know what zvz is.



They are just a general rule set to go by and the ladder admins get to decide the rules... check every other ladder there have been changes.


Arelax is right I got pushed over on this topic but NL isn't ladder so be patient.



e: 4 people who know what it is and about 2 who can afford rare bows lol

This post was edited by Airwaves on Aug 28 2009 02:28pm