makes me wanna make a v/t on east just to fight others @@

sadly im a westy spawn

I dont think it should stricktly be for V/T, opening it up to other smite based builds creates a little variety and spices up the ladder. Plus it allows for a much larger following of member and encourages other to join, as they wont be required to completely rebuild their characters

This post was edited by Spartikis on Feb 7 2011 08:43am

it just gets lame having to create special rules like holy freeze isn't allowed vs pure smiters, because they dont have that skill. i would be totally down for allowing them to join if all of the vtpk rules still applied. Maybe the only difference should be that vs pure smite the duels be held in hell, not nightmare.

thoughts anyone?

I dont think there should be special rules for various builds, Im fine with the rule set as it is, there should be one set of rules that everyone follows, reflecting the goal of it being a VT ladder. But i think it should be open to all smite based builds and when you join you do so knowing the rules and knowing that people will use skills liek HF or other skills that may put your build at a disadvantage, so you can choose to either work with that fact or not join the ladder.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Feb 7 2011 09:19am

see the main problem honestly is that vtpk is designed for strategy, and VC that can kill you in a few charges completely takes away from that. Excessive use of charge is the reason that we might be hesitant to let VCs join

you'll have to talk to matt or troy or any of the mediators

What if VC are allowed but they just are limited to how often they can use charge or they arent allowed to chain charge? So once they land a hit they cant just keep charging they have to either charge away and then back again, allowing time for the VT to use FOH on them or they can just switch to smite after the first charge, either way they wont be charging and hitting someone multiple times someone across the map, as the main complaint i get is not the dmg of charge but the fact that it locks people in place and there is nothing they can do about it.

And i did talk to the mediators and they were fine with allowing a VC in the ladder, i just needed to have 1 base point in FOH to meet the VT qualifications. But once i started showing up to games and i was getting alot of complaints about using charge to much...

This post was edited by Spartikis on Feb 7 2011 10:41am

I believe it IS the dmg. VTs can use charge as much as they want and there really arent many problems.

"limiting charge" is out of the question imo. just make a vt lol...


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I think someone is starting a charger vs charger ladder. Maybe you should join that

This post was edited by gumbardo7 on Feb 7 2011 10:45am

Well im not a pure charger, im a smiter with a weak charge skill, i have maxed charge but dont even have maxed synergies so it really doesnt do that great of dmg.

I would really love to join the ladder and i think it would make a much larger community, as im sure others dont have a build thats a pure 100% VT at heart but is similar and would love to join.

But if you dont want me in your ladder i understand.

lol its not up to me. I really dont care much. I can just completely understand other people's complaints

d2gm.com allowed v/cs to join up. I dont see any problems. The only thing I am against is allowing smite/hammer or pure fohers in.

oh and also gogucci plz be on around 8pm est

This post was edited by XRiZX on Feb 7 2011 12:34pm