im willing to switch over just becase i can afford it but i dont think i would vote for everyone to be required to have 5% just recomend that if you can get one please use it to make it more gm for our furry flea floundering fury friends

I'm going say no because of this mostly.

I agree with this. And minus 20 str points from charms means less naked characters. GM and style!

well i thought the argument was that torches kills a druid's spirit and lags interuptible attacks. exile isnt a problem since its not used vs druids

its arugments was that torchs kills a druid spirit etc lol

Death rw being bm when it does minimal damage compared to torch dmg is pretty lame too lol.

nooo I dont wana have to find 2 more bmana 3/20/20 to fill the 2 spaces cost me 800 fg probly

Hmm. I don't think using old torches make THAT much of a difference. IMO we should just keep it the way it is atm. Enforcing everyone to get the new torches is a bit of a stretch at this point, especially since the new torches are still relatively new. Maybe its something to think about further down the road, once they become more common.

As for not duelling with torches at all, this has been discussed before, but was denied for mainly one reason. Whether you all believe it or not, the UGML isn't everyone's main priority (I know right?), so it would be a pain for people that want to use the torches for everything else they do. Respecing every time they have a challenge would be a pain. I foresee a few players who would create a resistance against the "no torch rule" since it would be such a pain, and overall would just be a disaster and hard to enforce.

Yep. I use my zealot for MF'ing too, and without the torch I could never kill mephisto. That fucker's tough.