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Aug 4 2014 03:31pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Aug 4 2014 04:09pm)
Lo + Wisp as your only form of light sorb can never result in lightning damage healing you.

Edit: T-gods actually results in the effect you described, but it seems to be gm on the ladder.


The only time t gods will heal is against charge bolt, and few people use t gods anyway due to the life/dmg lose.
But after many times testing it, lo wisp didn't balance the fights at all like it will in fpk. It would always come out as good rolls or no dmg that can heal if even slightly.
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Aug 4 2014 03:32pm
Quote (tommyd323 @ Aug 4 2014 04:17pm)
Gds

Challenge e2z

I agree with the 24 hour rechallenge and 2 day limit. If people truly want to get their duels done they will request an extension.

Will be in svs/gm soon


eric, i think u can get one update...

Quote (TheBroodwich @ Aug 4 2014 04:54pm)
First let me get this out of the way, YOU won't be implementin any rule changes at all.
I saw a few agreed to the challenge times including aaron, and I probably will to... but do not over step your bounds ty.

All changes will be posted when fully agreed on by all head mods, not before for any reason.


Now as for the rest, please keep in mind the current rules are a result of over 6 years of competitive svs dueling. It wasn't some thing taken light.

The cold rules won't be changed simply for the fact that any minor change can have a huge impact on how they are on this ladder. Not everyone uses the same build.
Taking away too much can make them broken, too much res and they are nulled. Doom is bm forever because of the effects of holy freeze, that's always no.
Honestly with the current rules there have been colds that top this ladder, nick did it many times and muse here was hard to beat. So maybe the colds should just work on skill and not rules :ph34r:
If you want to blame someone for colds not being on here, blame bliz... they were the ones that made colds scale with res shredding and not dmg scaling like fire/light.... just saying because it makes it a bitch to balance.

About lo/wisp.. that's mean because it becomes either high rolls or heals :( not kidding. It's not like dueling a sin where u have 5 lights hitting at once.


imo, we need to make a poll, and ask the community, of Svs players, not the heads mods...
The isnt the Us Government, and ur not Mr Obama, tyvm...
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Aug 4 2014 05:09pm)
Lo + Wisp as your only form of light sorb can never result in lightning damage healing you.

Edit: T-gods actually results in the effect you described, but it seems to be gm on the ladder.


agree, tods gives this affect, its why i use it when i can (On 105 builds)
But ya, its gm for some reason, Lol

Quote (TheBroodwich @ Aug 4 2014 04:54pm)
First let me get this out of the way, YOU won't be implementin any rule changes at all.
I saw a few agreed to the challenge times including aaron, and I probably will to... but do not over step your bounds ty.

All changes will be posted when fully agreed on by all head mods, not before for any reason.


Now as for the rest, please keep in mind the current rules are a result of over 6 years of competitive svs dueling. It wasn't some thing taken light.

The cold rules won't be changed simply for the fact that any minor change can have a huge impact on how they are on this ladder. Not everyone uses the same build.
Taking away too much can make them broken, too much res and they are nulled. Doom is bm forever because of the effects of holy freeze, that's always no.
Honestly with the current rules there have been colds that top this ladder, nick did it many times and muse here was hard to beat. So maybe the colds should just work on skill and not rules :ph34r:
If you want to blame someone for colds not being on here, blame bliz... they were the ones that made colds scale with res shredding and not dmg scaling like fire/light.... just saying because it makes it a bitch to balance.

About lo/wisp.. that's mean because it becomes either high rolls or heals :( not kidding. It's not like dueling a sin where u have 5 lights hitting at once.


And as far as the Cold res goes, imo its broken now...
Sure there has been like 1x, or 2x, cold players to make it top of ladder, and be gud, but dont even try to tell me that they felt it was a fair duel, any time im on my cold sorc, i always feel like im @ a disadvantage right from the get go...

Its w/e, u say no changes, and ima keep saying changes...
imo, it should be left upto the community to decide, not the Mods/Meds...

e/ But i do agree, we should ask the mods/community, and agree on it, no jus do w/e u and aaron say, thats not fair imo...

e/ as it is now, u guys jus kinda impose urself on the ladder, and do w/e the fuck u want...
if u decide changes need to be made, u go ahead and make them, and 90% of the time, dont eve inform the rest of the community...

Example, taking away the 1x stack item rule...
or taking away raven + 399, and then re-implementing it...
Or changing the sc limit from 50res, to 55 res, so u can use 5x 20/11's...

Jus to name a few examples...

This post was edited by Stories on Aug 4 2014 03:48pm
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Aug 4 2014 03:33pm
Quote (TheBroodwich @ Aug 4 2014 05:31pm)
The only time t gods will heal is against charge bolt, and few people use t gods anyway due to the life/dmg lose.
But after many times testing it, lo wisp didn't balance the fights at all like it will in fpk. It would always come out as good rolls or no dmg that can heal if even slightly.


but tgods has this same affect...
If low rolls, then they heal, Lol
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Aug 4 2014 03:39pm
I wish I could be dueling my terrible god damn ISP is down. Ffs I hate frontier so much.

Stories/Chris I like the time frames but I don't think changing the other rules are very necessary.

This post was edited by tommyd323 on Aug 4 2014 03:40pm
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Aug 4 2014 03:41pm
Please don't change the re challenge and challenge times, this ladder is already slow as fuck, doing that will kill it completely.


And by slow I mean most duels on this ladder take at least 2-3 days to happen, which Is crap.
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Aug 4 2014 03:43pm
Quote (Vic0931 @ Aug 4 2014 05:41pm)
Please don't change the re challenge and challenge times, this ladder is already slow as fuck, doing that will kill it completely.


And by slow I mean most duels on this ladder take at least 2-3 days to happen, which Is crap.


how does this make it slower...

48 hours - Challenge (lots a time imo)
24 hours re challenge (Gives ppl under u a chance to challenge up)
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Aug 4 2014 03:46pm
Quote (Stories @ Aug 4 2014 04:43pm)
how does this make it slower...

48 hours - Challenge (lots a time imo)
24 hours re challenge (Gives ppl under u a chance to challenge up)


Not everyone can make it in 48 hours for duels...

And if people at bottom can't get on within 12 hours of a updated challenge that's there fault.

No rules should be changed
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Aug 4 2014 03:47pm
Quote (Stories @ Aug 4 2014 03:43pm)
how does this make it slower...

48 hours - Challenge (lots a time imo)
24 hours re challenge (Gives ppl under u a chance to challenge up)


12 hours is plenty of time, in today's world where most people have smart phones, there is no real excuse to not check jsp quickly and see if you can challenge someone and if so post that challenge.
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Aug 4 2014 03:48pm
Quote (TSM @ Aug 4 2014 04:46pm)
Not everyone can make it in 48 hours for duels...

And if people at bottom can't get on within 12 hours of a updated challenge that's there fault.

No rules should be changed


48 hours is good, we won't take away extensions of course. If people really want to get a duel done surely they'll be able to post asking for an extension.

12 or 24 hours idrc

People will be able to call dodges a lot easier if people don't reply in 2 days. If they don't that's their fault for not being active and replying. We won't kick people so easily for dodges though, maybe they will just learn to be more active.

This post was edited by tommyd323 on Aug 4 2014 03:50pm
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Quote (TSM @ Aug 4 2014 05:46pm)
Not everyone can make it in 48 hours for duels...

And if people at bottom can't get on within 12 hours of a updated challenge that's there fault.

No rules should be changed


Quote (Vic0931 @ Aug 4 2014 05:47pm)
12 hours is plenty of time, in today's world where most people have smart phones, there is no real excuse to not check jsp quickly and see if you can challenge someone and if so post that challenge.


Lol'd...
its w/e...

Iso head mod/med status, thanks...
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