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Jul 15 2014 01:08pm
If it wasn't for the aura I'd have no issue.
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Quote (Muse @ Jul 15 2014 12:33pm)
doom should be gm Even if some player walk alot.

Like imaKTULU said it is possible to win vs 200fcr sorc or light sorc but it's really harder on a cold sorc. Even if the ladder and the rules are old ... there's should be some place for some changes.
it always been fire sorc at top with 200fcr or 105fcr with 4.5k+ mana. A good cold sorc can hit #1 with some luck but in the end I doubt he'll be able to defend his spot more than 2 times.

399/raven should be reach with no pieces of stack (nothing over 100res)on a 105fcr sorc.
same with a 200fcr if it's possible but I doubt unless she's using wizzspike...


w/e I'm pretty sure rules will stay still but it's always good to bring our opinions to make this ladder better.



Being frozen also affects your FHR

that is why the Doom Aura is so cheap, because you can't counter it with CBF and thus it is an unfair advantage.


hec if i had it my way the rules would go back to old school SvS

no sorb no max res period.


Update the ladder please and thank you!

This post was edited by Vic0931 on Jul 15 2014 01:24pm
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Fuck it, I'll come back for a little. Put me in a challenge with the current #5. I think it's casedizzle
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Quote (Muse @ Jul 15 2014 02:33pm)
doom should be gm Even if some player walk alot.

Like imaKTULU said it is possible to win vs 200fcr sorc or light sorc but it's really harder on a cold sorc. Even if the ladder and the rules are old ... there's should be some place for some changes.
it always been fire sorc at top with 200fcr or 105fcr with 4.5k+ mana. A good cold sorc can hit #1 with some luck but in the end I doubt he'll be able to defend his spot more than 2 times.

399/raven should be reach with no pieces of stack (nothing over 100res)on a 105fcr sorc.
same with a 200fcr if it's possible but I doubt unless she's using wizzspike...


w/e I'm pretty sure rules will stay still but it's always good to bring our opinions to make this ladder better.


i agree with this...

Quote (TheBroodwich @ Jul 15 2014 02:44pm)
Doom is banned because of the freeze duration and slow amount. It last way too long, and very unfair to any against it.

If doom was aloud, cold sorcs would be broken as hell and make for even lazier fights of pure tele. If it was avoidable, that would be different, but the fact that holy freeze bypasses cham/raven cbf is why it's banned.


I wouldnt say gives a unfair advantage, as a cold sorc, with 105fcr vs a 200fcr fire sorc, imo, this would even things up...
I've been using mine vs other sorcs, and imo, it makes things more even, its not like im getting 5-0 every time, i actually do win some, Lol

Quote (TheBroodwich @ Jul 15 2014 03:08pm)
If it wasn't for the aura I'd have no issue.


the aura looks cute though :(
Quote (Vic0931 @ Jul 15 2014 03:21pm)
Being frozen also affects your FHR

that is why the Doom Aura is so cheap, because you can't counter it with CBF and thus it is an unfair advantage.


hec if i had it my way the rules would go back to old school SvS

no sorb no max res period.


Update the ladder please and thank you!


also, using a doom, effects ur build, and ur dmg/life output, its not like u can stack mad life/dmg when using one, cuz u still need to compensate for ur fcr/fhr
Idk, imo, i think we should allow it for a test period, as for other options, and changes to the rules, it is infact 2014, and fire has been on top for to long, imo, the rules are geard to favor fire sorcs...

But as you all said, doom is bm, and the aura/blah/blah
We have tried to make changes b4, and nuthing stuck, but imo, the rules as of now, have a few flaws them self, jus my opinion

Idc either way, its w/e, i jus play for fun :thumbsup:
And tbh, thought was pretty neat, doomz, on sorc, arua and all, w/e, guess ill jus use it for pubs, Lol
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Quote (TheBroodwich @ Jul 15 2014 01:35pm)
Fuck it, I'll come back for a little. Put me in a challenge with the current #5. I think it's casedizzle


sorry I'm in a challenge with him right now.


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Jul 15 2014 01:41pm
Doom is completely broken and unfair in svs, nick did it for fun and was literally untouchable. Holy freeze is banned from most ladders for a reason. Also Cold is such an iffy subject because any small change either nerfs them out or makes them 1 shot people... this has been tested for years with the same outcomes.

And stories, same goes for every class.. adding a cham takes from life as well as adding frw does the same.

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Oh and as for this ladder being "gear to fire sorcs" this games mechanics have almost always been in fire sorcs favor lol

Quote (Vic0931 @ Jul 15 2014 02:35pm)
sorry I'm in a challenge with him right now.


Well looks like I'm not coming back :(
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Jul 15 2014 01:46pm
I guess I'll join back up to but if I have to duel between 4 and 12 it's a pretty much guaranteed loss.

Ice-wpd/rickgrimez vita fire

Challenge #12 duty

This post was edited by tommyd323 on Jul 15 2014 01:47pm
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Quote (TheBroodwich @ Jul 15 2014 02:46pm)
Oh and as for this ladder being "gear to fire sorcs" this games mechanics have almost always been in fire sorcs favor lol



Well looks like I'm not coming back :(


I totally agree. but i also beleive cold/light are underplayed. just because fire has an advantage everyone jumps at it. If more people used light or cold the ladder would be more fun.
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svs//gm is up
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