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Aug 20 2009 01:53am
:( i don't mind dueling vs fort zons i just has to try harder!
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Aug 20 2009 02:29am
Quote (jajaboo-pO @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 03:53am)
:( i don't mind dueling vs fort zons i just has to try harder!


never seen so much discussions over builds inside the actual ladder post....thought that's the point of the ladder to see who has the best build + skill.

anyways were u in a challenge or can i challenge u? and ya im using fort still if u dont mind
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Aug 20 2009 05:34am
the rules are as posted on page 1, thats the ladder ppl are in and have signed up for...
u dont just change the rules whenever u want cuz ur "in charge" especially when ur not even on the ladder to begin w/

like sickt said, ladder is to see who has best build/skill...
y dont we say svs ladder... they can only use shakos and vipermagis? rather than circs and nice armors w/ cool jewels?

another thing... say i have a fort zon:
1. i will be forced to remake, so thats time/effort not needed to be spent...
2. will not be able to zva w/ this build... no matter what u do with yout 6k zon or w/e airwaves.. not everyone does odd builds... and the 30 res from fort is part of my build... meaning i would neeed more res to hit proper stack... (and on this ur opinion means nothing cuz u are never team dueling and sure dont have a teap pk team for team duels...)
3. say i build w/ fort and other person doesnt agree... now im forced to go get different items when i already have all the items i have?
4. this makes zvz ladder only for zvz zons... = less people and less fun (end of story... because people are not going to want to duel at dis advantage)
5. c/a is a part of it... makes it interesting... doesnt allow for 1 hit kills... and doesnt make noobs good or w/e ur bullshit reasons were besides from... " me and my friend who ran ladder back when (back when doesnt mean shit) decided its a good idea... "
6. lets use our brains here... or ill make my own zvz ladder and this shit can be for good family laughs...
7. MOST IMPORTANTLY- the ladder everyone joined is the one posted on page 1... thats what matters... big rules like this should be discussed by EVERYONE on the ladder... thru pm for personal contact and in forum... should be a vote or something... this is America right?
--this may be something worth deiscussing and whatnot for when ladder rolls... but not something to be just thrown around...

and thats that... any problems w/ this? pm Aoz14@jsp...
IF this is not gona be handled in the correct way... ill be taking myself off the ladder... well idk if u can even call this a ladder.. ill be taking myself out of the looney bin...

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Aug 20 2009 05:38am
Quote (Airwaves @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 02:14am)
I don't care about 1.11 kids who can't handle the fact fort is still able to be used.


My zon is built around fort too, you sound like an idiot Steve.


Pretty sure I haven't had a problem since January alright?
There won't be any problems now, either.  Say "let's use fort" the option is just there for people who want a real match.



Don't need the war peanut gallery posting here either, thank you.


well u begged to get in war... so sorry u feel that way now... LOL
so u sound like an idiot


Quote (Airwaves @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 04:37am)
too much controvery this shit is turning into pleck vs. war again

afk for the night


pleck was an immature kid... he was mad from loosing a gm duel...
the kid was a nut case...
so if your comparing it to that... maybe u should take sec and realize how similar this is...
its a joke... just the same
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Aug 20 2009 05:45am
I'm getting tired of all this drama..
Just keep a 40/15'd shaft and a whatever jewel'd shako in stash for the rare occasion that someone says no to fort.
I know I won't ever decline using fort in duels.

Edit:
Although, I do think it's somewhat bullshit that he just sprung it on us out of nowhere.

This post was edited by Prong on Aug 20 2009 05:47am
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Aug 20 2009 05:56am
wait..... this whole no fort thing was serious?

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Aug 20 2009 08:37am
Quote (lodd222 @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 01:59am)
Sure it does, now every one on east can join the Z v Z ladder.


even you! so show ur skills

remember, no cubes in the inventory!!!!!


Quote (Hightimes08 @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 03:51am)
Well, since there is a no fort rule now in effect, I have to find someone to help me get a 160/60 and rebuild.

Probably get a new bow too, its fine with me not raging, just have to take some time to find gear I can afford.

<3 See you soon


reread, u can still use fort


Quote (stuslegend @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 07:56am)
wait..... this whole no fort thing was serious?


no, everyones just retarded, they obv cant read, mainly lod222. anyways, ppl still use fort, but I proposed a vote to see who would be in favor of banning it, and all of a sudden everyone realized that fort is a piece of shit and a huge advantage in duels, and that every other ladder bans it because of ca, for that reason it shuld be banned, but its not because everybody wuld throw a fucking bitch fit, kinda like the one goin on right now

so u can still use fort, for those of us that want more skill based duels, and non-cookie cutter/luck, we will duel with shafts(and the not as good 160/60's), but if u have a fort build and dont wanna change, u know who u are, then we will duel you with your fort.

let me say though, that I dont believe fort is completely unfair, it def still does take skill, and a pro without a fort will always own a noob with one, because skill is the most important factor, BUT when duels are as close as they are, CA is a real unfair advantage.

This post was edited by Arelax on Aug 20 2009 08:58am
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Aug 20 2009 08:39am
Who's got the best bowa on East?

Obv not me, but just curious.

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Aug 20 2009 08:42am
Quote (babypichu @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 10:39am)
Who's got the best bowa on East?

Obv not me, but just curious.

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Aug 20 2009 08:47am
Since I'm already here, is there a way for a zon to beat a smiter or charger?

Always feels impossible
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