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#211
Feb 6 2015 03:03pm
Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 6 2015 04:55pm)
As long as what is relevant to the ladder? lol


In regards to:

Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 6 2015 04:43pm)
As per the conversation Garcia and young are having in the wrong thread.
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#212
Feb 6 2015 03:05pm
I don't see the point in being unable to drop a challenge.

I mean I could just let it go and hold a dueler up another day or two. Which is bad for business. If anything has to be done to make it fair Make the wait time to rechallenge like 12 hours vs 6 after a loss. That would be more fair to anyone instead of making it a waste of time and pain the ass.

I personally leave town a lot which is why I do drop a lot of challenges as I live a few hours away from my parents and my family currently, so trips home are often.
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#213
Feb 6 2015 03:05pm
Quote (KungPeriodFu @ 6 Feb 2015 21:00)
people should absolutely have the right to withdraw/drop challenges.
if some one doesnt have the time to duel why shouldnt they be allowed to drop/withdraw the challenge to save the other party's time.
no point in having it drawn out to a null duel.


because it leaves a huge opening for dodging EVERY duel and moving up the ladder without dueling, a system you would take advantage of, if u cant duel dont challenge

i think the limit should be 2 dropped duels then u restart from bottom of ladder

This post was edited by Drewg on Feb 6 2015 03:06pm
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Feb 6 2015 03:07pm
Quote (KungPeriodFu @ Feb 6 2015 05:00pm)
people should absolutely have the right to withdraw/drop challenges.
if some one doesnt have the time to duel why shouldnt they be allowed to drop/withdraw the challenge to save the other party's time.
no point in having it drawn out to a null duel.


-_-

Again. Please learn to read an entire post prior to singling it out...

"Also, if we rid ourselves of challenge dropping, we can still have the option to PM a med for permission to drop a challenge to free up the defender if you will not be able to fulfill the challenge."

This is different from how it is now because, if you cannot fulfill it then yes, you should be able to drop it. But you would need to give a reason. I.e. for garcia, leaving town.

If you are unable to complete a challenge then 6 hours shouldn't be enough time to free yourself up, and if it is then a 24 hour extension would also work so you can actually do the challenge you signed up for. If you aren't able to complete the current challenge because of timing, then odds are you will be needing vacation, or the challenge is nearing the end in the first place so nulling it is pointless because then someone else could just challenge you, in which case you would need to dodge, because you don't have time. Obviously making a challenge would be out of the question, because if you don't have time for the first duel, why would you have time for the second?
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Feb 6 2015 03:09pm
Quote (Drewg @ Feb 6 2015 04:05pm)
because it leaves a huge opening for dodging EVERY duel and moving up the ladder without dueling, a system you would take advantage of, if u cant duel dont challenge

i think the limit should be 2 dropped duels then u restart from bottom of ladder


this is a legit idea. i can stand by that

2 dodges = drop from ladder
2 drop duels = drop from ladder


as for not allowing users to drop challenges at all - that's just retarded.

Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 6 2015 04:12pm)
I disagree because Garcia shouldn't be punished for having to go out of town.


it's called vacation status

This post was edited by KungPeriodFu on Feb 6 2015 03:13pm
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Feb 6 2015 03:11pm
Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 6 2015 05:07pm)
-_-

Again. Please learn to read an entire post prior to singling it out...

"Also, if we rid ourselves of challenge dropping, we can still have the option to PM a med for permission to drop a challenge to free up the defender if you will not be able to fulfill the challenge."

This is different from how it is now because, if you cannot fulfill it then yes, you should be able to drop it. But you would need to give a reason. I.e. for garcia, leaving town.

If you are unable to complete a challenge then 6 hours shouldn't be enough time to free yourself up, and if it is then a 24 hour extension would also work so you can actually do the challenge you signed up for. If you aren't able to complete the current challenge because of timing, then odds are you will be needing vacation, or the challenge is nearing the end in the first place so nulling it is pointless because then someone else could just challenge you, in which case you would need to dodge, because you don't have time. Obviously making a challenge would be out of the question, because if you don't have time for the first duel, why would you have time for the second?


this makes sense..


Quote (KungPeriodFu @ Feb 6 2015 05:09pm)
this is a legit idea. i can stand by that

2 dodges = drop from ladder
2 drop duels = drop from ladder



as does this, imo make a poll for the participants to decide.

This post was edited by Kurtchack on Feb 6 2015 03:12pm
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#217
Feb 6 2015 03:12pm
Quote (Garciaparra @ Feb 6 2015 05:05pm)
I don't see the point in being unable to drop a challenge.

I mean I could just let it go and hold a dueler up another day or two. Which is bad for business. If anything has to be done to make it fair Make the wait time to rechallenge like 12 hours vs 6 after a loss. That would be more fair to anyone instead of making it a waste of time and pain the ass.

I personally leave town a lot which is why I do drop a lot of challenges as I live a few hours away from my parents and my family currently, so trips home are often.


As I stated. Your situation is reasonable for dropping a challenge. Hence:

Quote (Glyphic @ Feb 6 2015 04:43pm)
Also, if we rid ourselves of challenge dropping, we can still have the option to PM a med for permission to drop a challenge to free up the defender if you will not be able to fulfill the challenge. Example, If garcia needs to go out of town he can pm a med to drop his challenge and give him vacation because he has to go out of town.The med can approve this and the defender won't be stuck.


The point is to completely stop someone from taking advantage of dropping a challenge while also making it possible for people to drop if they absolutely have to and don't want to hold someone up.

Quote (Drewg @ Feb 6 2015 05:05pm)
because it leaves a huge opening for dodging EVERY duel and moving up the ladder without dueling, a system you would take advantage of, if u cant duel dont challenge

i think the limit should be 2 dropped duels then u restart from bottom of ladder


I disagree because Garcia shouldn't be punished for having to go out of town.

Quote (KungPeriodFu @ Feb 6 2015 05:09pm)
this is a legit idea. i can stand by that

2 dodges = drop from ladder
2 drop duels = drop from ladder


I don't think it is. Garcia, as he stated goes out of town often, but he is also one of the active duelers and tries to complete his challenges. If he places a challenge then the next day he gets called for something with his family, or something like that, lets say it happens twice in 2 months. Why should he get dropped for it?

@Kung.Fu

Do you not read at all? like seriously?
Obviously someone can ask for vacation status. But if they are in a challenge they can't ask for vacation status without dropping the challenge first...What part of that are you not understanding?

This post was edited by Glyphic on Feb 6 2015 03:19pm
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#218
Feb 6 2015 03:14pm
Simple, rather than 22 pages of arguing how it works, just don't let people drop from challenges and if they do they're bottom of the ladder?
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#219
Feb 6 2015 03:17pm
Quote (yostraydog @ Feb 6 2015 05:14pm)
Simple, rather than 22 pages of arguing how it works, just don't let people drop from challenges and if they do they're bottom of the ladder?


I mean, it isn't a big deal, but I don't think someone should have to drop to the bottom because they had a sudden change in plans.
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#220
Feb 6 2015 03:27pm
If we dont allow people to be able to forfeit, give up a spot, or drop challenges i gaurentee we see more and more 3 day nuls which hold the ladder much worse.

The 6 hour wait discourages false challenges and protects a victor of a duel to have a chance to progress before the person who lost challenges 2 spaces up blocking the winner. (A problem we were facing on the ladder before)

This 6 hour wait could be bumped to 12 hours the same way it was added to the last ladder in the last few weeks. I changed it to 6 hours because i thought 12 hours would hold back the active people trying to push up the ladder, which is what kills it over time.



Also, in the case of those ss's i already told and pm'd them both that the duels must be re done and proper ss's taken. Ignorance wont be an excuse anymore, esp when the first post in the ladder outlines everything very clearly.

This post was edited by legen on Feb 6 2015 03:28pm
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