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Nov 28 2014 11:09pm
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Nov 28 2014 11:13pm
Quote (Braum @ Nov 29 2014 12:09am)
Lol really??  How can you be so mad? What I did lol.  Jeez, so easy to piss off.  Youre a real ass hole.  Didnt lnow youbwere that kind of person lol.  Stop saying false accusation I always been gm, and respectfu.  But I hatebwhen ppl ate acting likenyou selfish



http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1049084 <- that;s you.

dont u think i recognize u?! u used to spam me the same way.

This post was edited by BeSh on Nov 28 2014 11:15pm
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Nov 28 2014 11:20pm
Quote (BeSh @ Nov 28 2014 11:19pm)
i fucking destroyed u 200-10.

U won ONE DUEL vs me.
IN GAME I OWNED U ROFL..

i never won vs u?
FIRST TIME IN YOUR LIFE THAT U HIT #1
AND U WON WHEN WE BOTH HAD 500 PING..LUCKBOX DUELS.

here...refresh your memory retard.
http://i58.tinypic.com/r2tiqc.jpg


New rules coming down the pike.
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Quote (BeSh @ Nov 29 2014 01:03am)
Because what if he did not cheat in those other duels?
Why would u DQ him completely from the whole thing. Bad enough he got DQ'd now.

Look as i stated in the first post when this whole drama started...I wont make the call regarding this situation because I was directly involved in it. Tom will.
I just spam my opinion same way u guys are, because thats my right.


That's fine, but why would you be opposed to the re-duels? I just don't see how it hurts you
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Nov 28 2014 11:32pm
Quote (Mstrforce @ Nov 29 2014 12:20am)
That's fine, but why would you be opposed to the re-duels? I just don't see how it hurts you


me personally ? Im not. As an admin, hell yeah i am. Because: It becomes a circus. Imagine if we had to re-do the duels retroactively, everytime someone got caught cheating. If u get caught cheating youre DQ'd period. Can't be DQ'd if its not proven.

This post was edited by BeSh on Nov 28 2014 11:33pm
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Nov 28 2014 11:58pm
If besh wants to continue to duel/finish vs busta that's up to him, otherwise he has to be DQ'd

As far as busta having to do re-duel anyone because of this that's not going to happen, and it shouldn't

If Floyd Mayweather gets caught using steroids he isn't going to have to re-fight his past opponents because of it and he isn't going to have PREVIOUS wins changed to losses

Dumb example but the principle is right
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Nov 29 2014 12:06am
Quote (Juventus @ Nov 29 2014 01:58am)
If besh wants to continue to duel/finish vs busta that's up to him, otherwise he has to be DQ'd

As far as busta having to do re-duel anyone because of this that's not going to happen, and it shouldn't

If Floyd Mayweather gets caught using steroids he isn't going to have to re-fight his past opponents because of it and he isn't going to have PREVIOUS wins changed to losses

Dumb example but the principle is right


I think that would be a good example for ladder duels, but in a tournament situation?
Also, u never responded to my PM :(
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Nov 29 2014 12:10am
Here is the the shake down:
1) Busta _nutsz is to be removed from the tournament immediately(Zero Tolerance), Forfeiting his position which will be factored into a null spot leaving a 3 way duel for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd (as to later be determined).
2) Due to the lack of evidence/proof throughout the tournament the busta_nuta lineage will not be re-dueled. Each and every person has the right to request gear checks and screen shot accordingly during each and every duel. Since these measures were not taken, no undeniable proof can be determined. The current duels will continue to exist as they stand.
3) Unperm items: unperm items have and always will be allowed on this ladder. This is the reason 1/4 of the barbs here are able to compete. By unperm items we mean (3/20/20's , 40/400/15/3 Grief X's, 40/15/13/120 Dungoes, 213 gores, Rends, unperm Visionaries, etc) IF and only if you read the rules...Hybrid items, and Eth items that are not self rep or zod bugged are specifically prohibited (eth Grief x's, eth forts, any hybrid rw, etc).
4) Rules: Rules exist for a reason and are updated for the obvious reasons of late...As will be updated again in the near future. EVERY new barb that joins the ladder received (or will receive for those 2 whom just joined over thanksgiving) a PM from me asking if they have read and understand ALL of the BVB rules.
5) If you are on the bvb ladder and/or the gladiator tournament and you have ANY questions, please feel free to pm me.

On that note:
Braum, You sir are on VERY thin ice. From my view, your posts are rude, snive, and you greatly underestimate the individuals on this ladder, not to mention your personal remarks to besh and your general behavior or late. Stop being a drama queen. This tournament nor the BVB ladder revolve around you (nor any 1 individual for that matter). Your position on the ladder resembles very little in this tournament. Do not get a big head because u briefly sat on the throne (if you would like to play that game im sure ~50% of the current ladder can speak from experience that they were once there). It is not ALL About being on top, the sooner you figure this out the better off the ladder will be. BTW; nice build...Besh and many others coined that one early on...ain't nothing special.

If you have an issue with my ruling please don't hesitate to pm me in a civil manor and I will further enlighten you.
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Nov 29 2014 12:16am
damn that was well written...But honestly I agree 1000000000000000000000000% with this. I just felt that coming from me, people who consider it as unfair because I was somewhat part of it .




Also, I have something to admit... I guess I can be the asshole Braum thinks I am

http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1049084 SSGod
http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=89884 Braum <-- this account is now de-activated :/ we won't be seeing him again (on this account).

This post was edited by BeSh on Nov 29 2014 12:17am
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Nov 29 2014 12:22am
I still think in this particular case, it would be more fair the other way, but a rule is a rule.
Yea it is better coming from someone who is completely removed from the situation, and for the record besh, I didn't think that your opinion was such as to benefit yourself, which is why I didn't see why you cared one way or the other.
It was a bit over the line for him to accuse you of trying to get an "easy win"
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