That part is actually talking about pvm.

It doesn't work like that with pvp that from what I've read and been told.

It would've listed on arreat that it doesn't comply to pvp, it shows all the %'s in relation to pvp and pvm and at 1/10th of life as it shows, that would be pretttty shitty dmg with out adding a decent hit behind it.

for guill bvb's though they can take your life down to nothing with seconds but their a pain to build around haha like killing your opponent at the very end

That's my whole point. It IS shitty dmg

This is the definition of crushing blow:

Crushing Blow
This is a chance of reducing a monster's health by X% in a single blow.


-Default: 1/4th
-vs. Players: 1/10th
-vs. Hirelings: 1/10th
-vs. Champions, Uniques, Bosses: 1/8th
-with missile weapons, default: 1/8th
-with missile weapons, vs. Players: 1/20th
-with missile weapons, vs Hirelings: 1/20th
-with missile weapons, vs Champions, Uniques, Bosses: 1/16th
The life removed is also scaled with number of players. So that if a monster has 450% more life due to 8 players (or whatever the value is) the life removed is further reduced by the same amount (450% would equal multiplying by 4.5 so the life removed by Crushing Blow is divided by 4.5).
It is possible to get up to 100% chance for Crushing Blow. Anything above 100% is discarded.
Physical resistance does apply to Crushing Blow damage, but only if the resistance is positive.
Crushing Blow Items stack in most cases.
Since 1.10 Crushing Blow is calculated before your normal damage. So, before doing the damage that you would normally do, there is a chance you will reduce the health of the monster by X% then normal damage apply to the resulting lower life. If you have more than one item with Crushing Blow, the probabilities will be added together. There will be one random check for a Crushing Blow. There is no check for each separate item, so one can not get multiple Crushing Blows in one attack.

The bolded part is what you're talking about, but it only pertains to monsters.

This post was edited by Devilish on Jul 25 2009 11:32pm

Updated Ladder:

*dk has defended the Throne 2x*

1) dk: heavens_light (GGBVB)
2) oM: GGbvb (GGBVB)
3) cha-fury: cha3 (Olympia/KM)
4) OG: HaloKM (KM)
5) IIBVBII: keepinithood (GGBVB/KM)
6) KM-MONSTER: nolove4u (Olympia/KM)
7) Dirtball: Devilish (Warriors)
8) JSong: Rugzy (GGBVB)
9) Kahn: KahnHuska (Olympia/KM)
10) xOMENx: yourdemise (GGBVB)
11) Her-Barbarian: DragonOfDreams (Dreams)
12) AboveTheLaw: Duv (Damage Inc.)
13) Gun_Kata: Gators (Warriors)
14) JudgeOfBVB: Ironskins (Warriors)
15) iKnD:zech21 (GGBVB)
16) sLash: nSs (Warriors)
17) R-ofl: youbleed666 (Solo)
18) EZBVB: ULtrader (ROK)
19) Garnish: Garnish (Underworld)
20) Laker: Billbo (GGBVB)
21) ZbugFort:SellinandGellin89 (DClone-Hunters)
22) HoeNam: Hunghing (GGBVB)
23) B-vB: R3ZuLt
24) sOgI: sOgI (GGBVB) (MIA)
25) Jjashik: JjAshIk (KM) (MIA)
26) Bahamut:nate321 (GGBVB) (MIA)
27) Neo_Legend: sunglicious (GGBVB) (MIA)
28) What: xDooMx (GGBVB) (MIA)
29) Drummond: young_schlum (GGBVB) (MIA)
30) SNSD-Sunny liniscool (#1) (MIA)

*EZBVB's Gears inspected by Lewis. Welcome to the Ladder*
*ZbugFort's Gears were inspected by Tony. Welcome to the Ladder*
*Welcome to the Ladder HoeNam*
*Added B-vB to the ladder and gear inspected by Mike*

Pending Duels:

R-ofl vs sLash ~July 24
Gun_Kata vs AboveTheLAw ~July 25
IIBvBII vs KM-MONSTER ~July 25
Dirtball vs JSong ~July 25

Finished Duels:

JudgeOfBvB vs AboveTheLaw ~July 25 (7:3:1 AboveTheLaw)
Laker vs Zbugfort ~July 24 (7:1 Laker)
Dirtball vs KM-MONSTER ~July 23 (7:4 KM-MONSTER)
Kahn vs xOMENx ~July 24 (7:2 Kahn)
EZBVB vs Garnish ~July 25 (7:2 EZBVB)
Her-Barbbarian vs Kahn (7:3 Kahn)
cha-fury vs dk ~July 25 (7:4:3 dk)
OG vs oM ~July 24 (7:5 oM)

*Ranks have been given in a random order to start this Ladder off, newly added Players will start at bottom. Pending Duels lasting longer than 3 days will be dropped by Thread Mods and challenger will get the rank of the challenged unless challenger is at fault for delay*

**Please save challenges towards Barbs in Pending Duels untill after duel has taken place, that way Barbs below can challenge you and keep Ladder moving and exciting**

They use monsters in each and every definition for all the special added dmg's if it were any different for the players I think they would state it, like how they state the difference in % taken off vs player compared to monsters and missles vs melee "" "" "" etc

oM vs OG

7-5 oM wins

amazing duels...tony is truly a solider....now i challenge my only weekness the infamous dk



ps: all the rugzy, conan talk....when it comes to rugzy vs conan....the reality is...conan has a very stable well balanced barb...i overpowered him but im one of a kind..overall hes a tru champ..and ill say that with confedence and im one of jims best friends...but jim has one of the best max damage barbs on the realm...along with dk and a few others...they will be good matches...but i'm almost posative jim will win..but jim thinks hes gonna own him..i highly doubt thats gonna happen...as far as "not being expirenced in bvb" thats a load of bullshit..2 weeks and u should get the hang of it..yes i no its not standin still n pressing a botton like zeal :::boring::: but its not rocket science..i wish the best to both of you

This post was edited by GGbvb on Jul 26 2009 12:02am

You're saying that a guy who's been bvb'ing for 2 weeks has the same experience as somebody who's been doing it almost daily for years on end?

The fun in zeal is the builds and the possibilities. There's no comparison between bvb and zeal as far as versatility and building goes, bro.

As far as me vs Rugzy? Rugzy has been bvb'ing a lot longer than I have and puts 110% effort into his barb. He should by all rights win, but he thinks he can give me a 3-0 headstart and slaughter me. THAT shit will not happen, and even without a headstart he's going to have a tough time beating me. Since he talks so much shit it's only good 'ol fashioned Karma that he loses this round. Either way I'll be laughing, so I'm not worried.

I am going to request a neutral ref for this match though. I would like Tony to check both of our gears and watch over the duels. I wouldn't mind a full game of spectators either.



This may be true, but I was under the impression that it's only the % taken off in pvp.

This post was edited by Devilish on Jul 26 2009 12:08am

so is it just a grudge match? or what?