Quote (BeSh @ Nov 17 2014 10:08pm)
Hehe had the same dilemma since I played West relatively recently.
On west is conq all the way.
It's Guard here. Because we don't have the 2454 zbugs.
If you're going for the high def Eth reps you pretty much have to use sacred fort.
BUT I kinda have builds to try and i was thinking of a build using conq... I personally prefer conq because It can hit 720+ def if I can recall. That extra def isn't worth it if u can get more vita (186 str req Vs 174). You'd have to do the calculations and use a different type of Fort.
Pm me if u want we can discuss this more. I am/was considering this whole issue just recently.
Smart guy
Yeah West uses a lot of Defense jewels and charms
I've noticed this.
East goes more for stat jewels.
Pm me man, you're going through the same thought process that I went through when I was figuring out my build.
Also it's true that East went on a sacred fort rampage and I was one of the last with zbug arreat and AP build. I finally caved in and went for sacred fort like everyone else but now I am using AP again. It's all about the challenge!
I actually used circlet the first time on west hehe.
Because I wanted a different build from all the Eth reps. It worked perfect for I was #1 there for about two months non stop.
Also drew u don't have to use - req SS that's wrong
Yeah, I'm a bit of a theorycrafter, lol. I always conjure up new builds and look for the strengths and weaknesses in each, and have continued onward in search of "the build" for some time now. I figure there's likely no such thing, but as someone who suffers from obsessive compulsive disorder, well, you get the point.
Quote (BeSh @ Nov 17 2014 11:01pm)
Unconscious I hope you have a barb on east and you're planning on joining the ladder
Iso more west barbs up in here!
Also typo 164*** str req on Eth conquerors vs 186 on guards !
I no longer have an account on East. I gave away my Barb to a guildy when I was in BA. Lv. 97, too - only two more!
Have a BvC on West ATM who's geared out the ass. Thinking of selling him off and getting everything for my new BvB on East. Not a whole lot of time to play atm though. It seems a a whole, East is still rather lively. Around the time I gave everything away, the BvB ladder was barely alive. On West, it seems everything's dead, minus the BvB ladder.
Quote (klax12 @ Nov 18 2014 08:05am)
A few people already answered you and gave good insight but I'll give you my 2 cents, if it’s worth anything to you...
Assuming you are using a Viso of some sort and a SA fort (based on your first post) a 30/60/9/9 jewel will give the following stats:
331 AR, 19.79 raw dmg (in PvP with DR factored) and 173.52 HP
A 30/50/37def/7dex jewel will give :
282.5 AR, 19.79 raw dmg (in PvP with DR factored), 67.5 HP, and 299.7 def (assuming no iron skin or shout mod on helms).
In the end you’ll need to weigh out the pros and cons of those said stats…
I have a duel calculator I made; when I put my Viso stats in versus a barb with a SA and GArreats I get the following results:
With 30/50/37/7 jewel your HP will be 5772, defense will be 30,063 (676 def Viso used for model) AR will be 24,430. Your chance to hit as a lvl 99 attacking a lvl 99 is 49.72 and you chance to be hit is 44.97 (no block factor)
With a 30/60/9/9 jewel you HP will be 5890, defense will be 29763, your AR will be 24487.1. Your chance to hit as a lvl 99 attacking a lvl 99 is 49.78 and your chance to be hit is 45.22 (no Block factored).
Over all a 30/50/37/9 jewel gives you .06% chance to hit and you’ll get hit 0.25% less times at the cost of 106 HP. An average hit hits for you for 650-675 dmg (based on set-up and thus the HP is more valuable.
TL;DR 30/60/9/9 is better
Wow, you're a wealth of information, down to the decimal points. I like it, hehe. Thank you for the breakdown. I'll definitely be in touch with you in the future when I'm back on East.