Quote (Unconscious @ 17 Nov 2014 21:43)
Thank you for the insight. When I was East about a year or so ago, nearly every last Barb was rocking an Arreats, bugged, up'd, or reg eth + SA Fort. There were few Vis's it seemed, almost none, really. Even the top Barbs at the top were using the good ole Z.B. Arreats.
When I went West, around a few months ago, every Barb was rolling with the Z.B. AP Fort (2454 Def, iirc), and either a low Str +5 BO Vis, with virtually no def whatsoever, or a eth, self-rep, high-def, +5 BO, Vis, Conq Crown. There really were no other choices if you were/are a serious contender over there.
Then came the seemingly endless number of Jewels from which a player could pick to compliment the build. Oddly enough, on West, a popular Jewel (30/50/37 Def/ 7 Dex) was nearly always used in the SS, and about as often in the Vis, regardless of low or high def. To me, that choice of Jewel seemed weird due to the +def it had, but only when coupled with the super low defense Vis itself.
On East at the time, it was pretty much 30/60/9/9 or nothing, given the high Str req for SA Fort (also a must, iirc). Never heard of or saw a Barb, high-end or otherwise on the ladder with AP Fort.
Idk if that helps you understand my confusion any, but any additional input on the matter is greatly appreciated.
A few people already answered you and gave good insight but I'll give you my 2 cents, if it’s worth anything to you...
Assuming you are using a Viso of some sort and a SA fort (based on your first post) a 30/60/9/9 jewel will give the following stats:
331 AR, 19.79 raw dmg (in PvP with DR factored) and 173.52 HP
A 30/50/37def/7dex jewel will give :
282.5 AR, 19.79 raw dmg (in PvP with DR factored), 67.5 HP, and 299.7 def (assuming no iron skin or shout mod on helms).
In the end you’ll need to weigh out the pros and cons of those said stats…
I have a duel calculator I made; when I put my Viso stats in versus a barb with a SA and GArreats I get the following results:
With 30/50/37/7 jewel your HP will be 5772, defense will be 30,063 (676 def Viso used for model) AR will be 24,430. Your chance to hit as a lvl 99 attacking a lvl 99 is 49.72 and you chance to be hit is 44.97 (no block factor)
With a 30/60/9/9 jewel you HP will be 5890, defense will be 29763, your AR will be 24487.1. Your chance to hit as a lvl 99 attacking a lvl 99 is 49.78 and your chance to be hit is 45.22 (no Block factored).
Over all a 30/50/37/9 jewel gives you .06% chance to hit and you’ll get hit 0.25% less times at the cost of 106 HP. An average hit hits for you for 650-675 dmg (based on set-up and thus the HP is more valuable.
TL;DR 30/60/9/9 is betterThis post was edited by klax12 on Nov 18 2014 07:16am