awww .. i cant stay mad at the meatman ..

Vouch

Yeah the kids a loser but he got scammer tagged at least.

yeah .. its for the greater good that he got tagged ..

Well if you don't ask for an extension before midnight tonight it's going to be ruled dodge, if you ask for one and can't meet it will be ruled cancel. I wonder which you'll choose

i want to put this up for discussion it seems flawed to me

It is the challenged job to ask for a extension even if he has been avalable to duel the past 3 days or he will be ruled a doger

I feel if you have been available and the chalenger hasnt it should just be ruled a cancel.

why would i want to extend a chalenge against me that my oponent hasnt been able to make if he wants my rank he will make himself avalable in the 3 days or he can ask for the extgenson

in the past like a year ago I remember simply forwarding a councel member my pms that i was avalable and willing to do my sets my oponent was not so the challenge was cancled

this seems like a much better idea than making a person extend when their not the one needing the extension simply not to be ruled agaainst as a doger.

This post was edited by scorpxxxx on Jan 14 2011 07:47pm

Just cause he has been available, doesn't mean he was available at the same time as the other person, they seem to have conflicting schedules, it happens. There's no way for 3rd party people to know who's been more available and at what times. They could have both been equally available but at different times.

It's been the responsibility of the challenged to ask for an extension for as long as I've been a part of this ladder, which started on like page 300. It's up to both people to set up the times, and it's worked fine so far.

The extension plays the role in helping to rule cancel/dodge, not everyone types out why they can't meet up like Bren did. It takes less than 5 min to type "Extend this please" and for the past couple hours I've noticed HormigaBrava and Bren have both been on at the same time.

thats the point they are both on why cant they do their sets their should be no need for a extension

it just seems like a terable way to say im 2 busy for your challenge im doing other things I personaly will drop everything except a tourny or the middle of a setb and anser any challenge/pm within 30 min

I see my oponents on all the time ill pm them every 20 min if needed i dont see the Gm in not getting a challenge done at the first opertunity and then expecting a extension 2 days later

I understand that the system works better with this format and im not saying it needs to change im just saying it dosent seem right



This post was edited by scorpxxxx on Jan 14 2011 07:56pm

But it's up to both of them, I can't side one way or the other then it just turns into Bias, with the extend and cancel/dodge thing it's clear and concise.

If you ask for an extension and cannot do it when it's clear you both have been trying to do it but can't meet up then it get's ruled cancel.

If you can't take the 2 minutes it takes to type "extend please" then it gets ruled dodge. That's the only way to unbiasly make rulings. It may not be the best way but it is the most fair way. Of course exceptions to this are if someone consistently extends they're challenges just to get a cancel ruling then investigation will take place after the 2nd/3rd in a row and further action can be taken.

I understand that and know we have t have a system of absolutes im just discussing ways (if their are any) to make things better

the current system is exploitable imo in the above situation as challenged I could ask for the extension then simply not be avalable for 24 hrs and get it ruled a cancel.

I dont have a solution is why im discussing it . Im not bitching complaining or finger pointing just trying to problem solve in a open format.

This post was edited by scorpxxxx on Jan 14 2011 08:07pm

I understand your point Steve, and alot of people have this complaint. But as the GM community the benefit of the doubt is given to people. If a situation were to arise where someone was abusing this, then I would immediately put it to a vote to ban them from the ladder. There hasn't been a situation like this and I pray there isn't ever one. As it stands we just have to accept this slight flaw or uncomfortable situation and make the best of it.