rules are outdated need a fix



well it kinda ruins the purpose of getting AR...
No Demon Limb and No Cube Bo allowed...and OFC no eth forts or eth armors with no repair / zod / indestruct mod

if you wanted to speed up duels on an even playing field best way would be to allow hybrid RWs

IMO

not everyone is able to afford those which is why that rule is in place

they are as expensive as a 40-400 grief is now, the first season they came out they were hyper expensive

edit roughly as expensive

edit 2: would allow for new theorycrafting in BvB which is a stagnant arena at the moment

This post was edited by klax12 on Oct 16 2014 01:14pm

bvb/1 up

i m using AP !
SA >
but i want to keep different builds..i have a couple of different builds u can try too
thats theorycrafting for ya...



maybe...should make a vote for it
honestly i find regular grief hits more..
the eth rune in it is amazing

This post was edited by BeSh on Oct 16 2014 01:29pm

Those rules aren't the set I'm talking about. It lists TMC which didn't exist in 1.10




I know that no non-indestructible/self repair eth items are allowed, they never have been allowed and for good reason. Using cube bo or stash prebuff bo would not help speed up the duels, and would in fact make them take longer. It also wouldn't be 100% =
However, demon limb doesn't ruin the purpose of AR. We still used angelics w/ it and didn't always hit. It literally keeps the exact same differential between bit chance between both players, just increases it to speed up duels. That's why we allowed it.

This post was edited by Mstrforce on Oct 16 2014 01:33pm

Ill tell u why i dont like that idea...because id stop using AR jewels and id use dmg jewels instead....and i think everyone would.
There's also the fact that i hate buffing since technically remember that u cant go to stash...
but if we allow that we ll have much longer duels

I vote we should. Per your example here's a little theorycrafting.

Regular grief eth rune = -25% target defense (halved for PvP to 12.5%)
you have 22.8k defense which means your base def is 2814.

87.5% (100-12.5) of 2814 is 2462.25.

Means regular grief hit checks your AR (assume 24k) against 19,944.23 defense.

That AR/DR equates to a 54.76% chance to hit, 13.69% chance with block factored in.

Grief of Doom for example has Lo and Um runes in it but no eth.

no eth means AR/DR hit checks out to a 51.43% chance to hit (12.85% after block factored)

Is 3.34% chance to hit wrth more than 20% DS and 25% OW?

That's up to the user

You cannot go BACK to stash, there's nothing that says you cannot go to stash pre duel. That rule is in place to stop people from going to the moor sight prebuff gear, casting BO and shout, then going back to stash to get their dueling gear and then returning to the moor. If you demon limb before the duel at the stash and then cast BO/ shout before the duel starts, no prebuffing (except for demon limb) can take place.

Why would swapping jewels be a bad thing? You wouldn't need to because you still need AR, and even if you wanted to, that would further speed up duels.

I'm not suggesting we change it because "that's what we did in my day", I'm suggesting it be out to a vote and a trial before any change would even be considered. Change isn't a bad thing tho