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Nov 3 2021 06:16am
Quote (KrakenSlayer @ Nov 3 2021 07:54am)
Man, until wsg is fixed, I’m against having sins at all man, zero counter play. It isn’t the current sin players fault that they don’t know how to use their character.



I beat every opponent I faced 3-0 in under 10 mins each set. Only the finals where Jess l8z’d on joder hdin with 100% iDR did the duels get dragged out.

For the record, I was up 2-0 against him in semifinals and 2-1 in finals. Then he puts on 100% iDR gear (to become immune to mindblast) and runs from one side of moor to the other side spraying hammers the moment I’m on his screen. He repped so many times from 200ish life back to 800, I lost count. The moment I got mindblast distance from him, he would just charge away and C/T tele to other side of map. You can only chase a hdin so hard because all it takes is 2 stray hammers and you’re done. Anyone who thinks they could have won as a trapper against this should put their money where their mouth is and wager him 10k fg + stream the duel. Will be the same conclusion if Jess resorts to this tactic and play style.

If someone is going to play like that (and meds will not enforce defensive play) then there needs to be a cap on iDR. No one should be able to completely negate mindblast damage and life rep over and over like that.

Additional, after the semi-final round, I was told (by the med) that I did NOT have to let him get mana if he continues to play like this. However, for some reason the med went back on his word mid duel and even started to hand deliver mana to him in the moor. This allowed him to keep up this play style indefinitely.

IMO: Demon limb should be allowed. Many budget builds lack proper AR. I’m sure that a lot others people will agree with me on this.

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Nov 3 2021 06:45am
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Nov 3 2021 06:49am
Set a timer to 3 mins per duels, and fix a condition to determinate the winner. l8z is fobirdden ofc!
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Unpopular opinion - I think the rules need to change up a bit especially if this game is going to survive in a 2021 environment.

Defensive play vs defensive play should not be rewarded - at some point they should just stop putting mana pools on the ground and force the players to make calculated decisions instead of just spamming (hammers, traps, fireballs, arrows, spells, etc)

Who is going to want to be in a duel for 45 mins straight every tourney…

You can call me trash - say I don’t know anything about d2 dueling or w/e but even as a viewer that shit was cringe to watch. I can only imagine if I was a player. The first 15 mins were actually pretty intense and filled with anxiety. But after that it was whack.

Props to Bui and Toe for sticking it out. I think 15-20mins in I would’ve just conceded tbh.

I will prob get roasted for posting this but oh well.

(Edited for grammar and spelling)

This post was edited by Ed_d on Nov 3 2021 06:50am
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Nov 3 2021 06:57am
limited mana pools would work except when vs sins. you really have to l8z in d2r vs sin so .... ban sins or limit their fcr to 63 :bonk:

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Nov 3 2021 06:59am
Quote (Sapporo @ Nov 3 2021 07:57am)
limited mana pools would work except when vs sins. you really have to l8z in d2r vs sin so .... ban sins or limit their fcr to 63 :bonk:

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Nov 3 2021 07:01am
Quote (Ed_d @ Nov 3 2021 08:50am)
Unpopular opinion - I think the rules need to change up a bit especially if this game is going to survive in a 2021 environment.

Defensive play vs defensive play should not be rewarded - at some point they should just stop putting mana pools on the ground and force the players to make calculated decisions instead of just spamming (hammers, traps, fireballs, arrows, spells, etc)

Who is going to want to be in a duel for 45 mins straight every tourney…

You can call me trash - say I don’t know anything about d2 dueling or w/e but even as a viewer that shit was cringe to watch. I can only imagine if I was a player. The first 15 mins were actually pretty intense and filled with anxiety. But after that it was whack.

Props to Bui and Toe for sticking it out. I think 15-20mins in I would’ve just conceded tbh.

I will prob get roasted for posting this but oh well.

(Edited for grammar and spelling)



I 100% agree. First few duels going in was very fun. Jess was playing both a mix of aggro and defensive at times when needed. I was side stepping and south walking hammers while trapping and ww’ing at the right moments. There were times here he even tried to put on grief to holy freeze and charge me down, telesmite for swirl to foh+stomp etc. Was a fun cat and mouse game and exciting for both dueler and viewers alike.

Eventually I came out on top and I think he realized that the only way for him to beat me is to resort to the lame tactics. Drag it out to 45 mins per match in the hopes that I would eventually mess up and run into stray hammers while chasing and die. If the meds didn’t force me to let him get infinite mana, I could have prevented this. He would have eventually ran out of mana from all the defensive play and the match would have been conclusive.
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Nov 3 2021 07:04am
Just reread rules nvm

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I beat every opponent I faced 3-0 in under 10 mins each set. Only the finals where Jess l8z’d on joder hdin with 100% iDR did the duels get dragged out.

For the record, I was up 2-0 against him in semifinals and 2-1 in finals. Then he puts on 100% iDR gear (to become immune to mindblast) and runs from one side of moor to the other side spraying hammers the moment I’m on his screen. He repped so many times from 200ish life back to 800, I lost count. The moment I got mindblast distance from him, he would just charge away and C/T tele to other side of map. You can only chase a hdin so hard because all it takes is 2 stray hammers and you’re done. Anyone who thinks they could have won as a trapper against this should put their money where their mouth is and wager him 10k fg + stream the duel. Will be the same conclusion if Jess resorts to this tactic and play style.

If someone is going to play like that (and meds will not enforce defensive play) then there needs to be a cap on iDR. No one should be able to completely negate mindblast damage and life rep over and over like that.

Additional, after the semi-final round, I was told (by the med) that I did NOT have to let him get mana if he continues to play like this. However, for some reason the med went back on his word mid duel and even started to hand deliver mana to him in the moor. This allowed him to keep up this play style indefinitely.

IMO: Demon limb should be allowed. Many budget builds lack proper AR. I’m sure that a lot others people will agree with me on this.


Not sure why a retard like yourself even comments on pvp. You mained a ww sin for 15+ years and never got good. Go make some noodle and shut the fuck up.
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Nov 3 2021 07:09am
What should a hdin do vs a sin when he has 200hp besides be defensive lol? You let him rep that many times, that’s on you. Don’t act like you chased him hard either, you did the bare minimum to be considered the aggressor if you can even say that. I’m sorry but you have like a specific setup vs every mu you played(100% ow vs zon etc) and your playing the most broken class in the game atm, no qq pls.
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