Agreed. 22rl cap is a sweet spot for ZvZ.

yeah i think there are good arguments on both sides of it. we could keep the 22 rep limit which would largely prevent fort users from using rep rings. they'd have to use a shield jewel or get some rep from their gloves to reach 22.

i was concerned about rng until i realized fort would give players the flexibility to use diamond bow or shadow bow (diamond being much more consistent than gmb.) i think the best fort build would be diamond or shadow, dungos, ss, rare diadem with 2zon, 30frw, 2os (40-15) and other useful mods

i ran some numbers a week or two ago and i think chilling armor provides ~15% higher odds of multishot missing. if we unban fort around the time the new patch comes out, GA will gain 5% damage while multi will lose ~5% of its efficacy.

in our current meta with fort banned, there's one build that's decidedly, objectively superior (by a wide margin afaict): 160-60, gmb, 9 rep ring, ber'd gaze, ber'd swordback

unbanning fort allows for more creativity/flexibility with itemization. maybe someone will find a new build and climb with it. if players are able to switch to shield to tank the vast majority of their hits, this new build could perform well, but it's hard to give up so much dr bowside (esp when fighting against invis arrows) while losing 50% open wounds. the rng with CA is a tradeoff, especially if players opt for diamond over shadow.

amapk///1 is up

viper won 3-1 and 3-0

gds m8


im gonna have to remove myself from the ladder for now for rl reasons

gds yall

t4d bro. Join us back when you can.

ggs man

Unfortunately in the top levels, the Aggro chaser guy will likely die trying to offense.,,someone running at you or even walking is so easily punished…even if ur defensing against someone tryna come at you u just gotta multi a couple of times and he gets hurt bad lol

id b willing to unban fort; would motivate more aggro playstyle i think; not everyone has the patience to get invisbile arrow'd to death for 5-20 min a round, let alone doing that for an hr and a half straight :[

This post was edited by choopsnoop on Feb 7 2022 09:39pm

really good deal on a gaze here:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92303228&f=268&p=604655515#p604655515



might i suggest being a bit more... machiavellian? make a d2r zon, join community, earn our trust and friendship, then manipulate us to your liking

machiavellian im a new fan of that word lol, i will def see you guys soon, i am a zon lover, stuck on LOD atm, if anyone got lod zon id love to zvz anytime!!

just waiting on prices to drop atm, spent all my fg recently ;..;