since the only ability depending on AR is multishot - the defense bonus has virtually no impact on hit check in zvz
you'd just be less likely to get hit by a multishot.. kind of incentivizing against even using the ability a bit

a 16060 would be better on jav side i think objectively still

16060/ gmb setup may smoke a fort zon under post patch mechanics too since it keeps its ability to throw fast/ skills from the gmb itself.. kinda needs to be tested

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Jan 26 2022 01:06pm

anybody wanna play some dules ?

The reason we banned fort is that we felt it prolonged duels, which were already long because people on east used to play way more defensive. Lightning skills were also banned back then. Zons play a lot differently now, maybe you guys should retest fort. Just an observation to watch out for: guided arrow was not supposed to be affected by defense, but it was. The chance to hit difference is small for chars between 1k and 3k defense, but my zealot with 70k defense could tank ga’s all day.

mat bow is what i use i do 4k on my zon on legacy maybe 4.1k but i use to do like 4.5k when i had my old zon that got hacked it had 40 or 80edmg base on my frw circlet and it also had str and dex on the circlet so the extra str after putting the ss and the titans i think increased dmg not sure also i dont have a 451 on here idn if 1x 451 is banned now its been 10yrs since i zvz gm


and yeah i thought thats why fort builds were allowed back then because glass cannon vs vita isnt really fair unless u have fort imo especially if ur not supper deffence like everyone else was i couldnt use a whaler shield and win was just impoissble they run run run i die cause my dmg is half of what theirs is not cool

and its not that the def matter'd other than the max block shield side is all because the higher the def the better the block more to life idn i think anyways i cant completely remember but i never heard someone complain about my dueling even if i did win with fort and i always showed ppl my setup they had fun i had fun it was all good

and imo 160/60 is GMB build period mat bow is so much more fun imo and it frees up your circlet options i cant stand the 40/15s its so basic you say 160/60 stylish i say its played out and forces the same character builds over and over and over no one is of their own design whoever has more life and runs more wins blah boring put some back into it also what is this auto wsg i hear about in 2.14 wheres the skill ?

This post was edited by eyeslow on Jan 26 2022 07:15pm

wut

Was fun all good

games up

Chall

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