this reminds me of the time the one guy who didnt play zvz suggested changing multi rules

then we realized this person won't even play on the ladder

it stays as it is for now - after patch we can always decide

but def only matters with an attack that has AR? GA doesnt account for ar? multi does and fury ofc but..

also in BVB when a players fort procs they just rejoin to remove the proc for next duel

really close dmg numbers



hey hey my zon is on standby and i've dueled with the boys at least a few times



This post was edited by Hepzibah on Jan 26 2022 12:00pm

hypothetically, if we add an infinite amount of RNG and keep pushing things further in that direction, a newb could come along, win the lottery and take the #1 spot. idk why we'd want to put more emphasis on RNJesus in a competitive ladder; zvz is already loaded with it.

Fury doesn’t have an AR check either, just block

in that case the def only effects multishot.. wait theres jab too LOL

which might feel welcomed if that player youre talking about was the dude complaining about multishot spam



e/ you'd just more likely survive some multishot deaths.. which used to happen pretty frequently and kinda felt cheap

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Jan 26 2022 12:06pm

for what my 2 cents are worth, id wait til after patch to see how the changes are live

i agree that we are dealing with practically a new game here with new information, and i was one of the ppl who though ca sorbed arrows, which we all know now is false.

the point as jordang pointed out was dodge lock, but thats going away too. I can see the possibility of opening up fort.

i am no where near the skill level i was in lod, but that just means i have to adapt to the new environment, which since we are getting attention from blizz, will be changing more frequently in the future.

this means being open to changes in what we consider zvz to be



i guarentee you, you could throw all the rng in the world in a matchup and a skilled zon will trump a less seasoned zon almost always

This post was edited by LOLRagezzz on Jan 26 2022 12:04pm

Ull see me in shako n fort

waiting on my throne KID

This post was edited by Hepzibah on Jan 26 2022 12:07pm

we're playing with Jordang tomorrow at 7pm