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Jan 26 2022 11:42am
The game is big enough to cater to all rule sets. There are places outside of JSP (and i am NOT referring to discord D2arena) where there are entire communities with different rules. regardless we all should be able to afford tokens and eventually, all the required items for all the variances re: different rule sets. I did not make that bowa tournament (with modified rules) to detract from this ladder, but to complement it. The idea is not to have more zons playing in ladder/tournament but to have more zons period. Also in the forti "setup" they have been running with Nos Coil since forever (yes it slows, but everyone wears it).

This is a great ladder, well maintained, GM and I agree - if you lose with shaft you lose with forti, we are all running off similar engines.

staying on topic~

14. Ferdia / Ferdia / Ferdia#2746 (EU) challenges 13. Hannah / alexisonfire678 / FourtyOz#11756


This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 26 2022 11:45am
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Jan 26 2022 11:46am
Quote (GoD-Viper @ Jan 26 2022 09:38am)
Forti just simple give huge buff for damage and I assume that 90% zon will go for build forti + 120/45 + goldwrap. High damage, low defense -> higher RNG.
And the CA issues increase RNG even more, beside from CA not being Zon skill.

but maybe I just have to close mindset cause I was always playing with league rules which has even more restriction than ZvZ Gm.



That set up would be awful no dr you’ll just get shit on by even a decent shaft zon
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~ Updated Zon vs Zon Ladder ~

1. afk / -Mammal / Itzmewerdy#11957
2. AA / BluntsGLI / StackBundles#1208
3. Virtuosity / jordang / Jord#11769
4. Andromeda / Karusano / lllllllllll#1970
5. deineMutter / Kochoniasty / Kocho#2790 (EU)
6. RB / modernfamiry / Rbz#1175
7. Butters / LOLRagezzz / LOLRagezzz#1746
8. Prosie / BibukBibukowski / Bibuk#2556 (EU)
9. Lies / Soxfan24 / visdev#1422
10. Bowas / Tusebruto / Tusebruto#1327 (EU)
11. Prime / Graceful / redrum#1414
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13. Hannah / alexisonfire678 / FourtyOz#11756
14. Ferdia / Ferdia / Ferdia#2746 (EU)



~ Current Challenges ~

10. Bowas / Tusebruto / Tusebruto#1327 (EU) [vs.] 12. Xiaolongnu / GoD-Viper / VIP#2152 (EU) Dodge/Null - Jan 30th
3. Virtuosity / jordang / Jord#11769 [vs.] 5. deineMutter / Kochoniasty / Kocho#2790 (EU) Dodge/Null - Jan 26th
6. RB / modernfamiry / Rbz#1175 [vs.] 4. Andromeda / Karusano / lllllllllll#1970 Dodge/Null - Jan 30th
14. Ferdia / Ferdia / Ferdia#2746 (EU) [vs.] 13. Hannah / alexisonfire678 / FourtyOz#11756 Dodge/Null - Jan 30th

~ Previous Matches ~

7. RB / modernfamiry / Rbz#1175 [vs.] 6. Butters / LOLRagezzz / LOLRagezzz#1746 Modernfamiry
8. Prosie / BibukBibukowski / Bibuk#2556 (EU) [vs.] 6. RB / modernfamiry / Rbz#1175 Modernfamiry



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This post was edited by -Mammal on Jan 26 2022 11:46am
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Jan 26 2022 11:48am
the way amazon functions will be completely different post patch.. obv dont change anything yet but fort may make more sense in the future
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Quote (Hepzibah @ Jan 26 2022 09:48am)
the way amazon functions will be completely different post patch.. obv dont change anything yet but fort may make more sense in the future



Yeah interested to see what this auto wsg is like in zva lmao
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Jan 26 2022 11:50am
Quote (modernfamiry @ Jan 26 2022 12:49pm)
Yeah interested to see what this auto wsg is like in zva lmao


I think everyone will cry and zon gear will go up in value. That’s my two cents.
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Quote (Bigal22 @ Jan 26 2022 09:50am)
I think everyone will cry and zon gear will go up in value. That’s my two cents.



Looks like you’ll be selling ur zon for the 10th time
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Jan 26 2022 11:53am
Quote (modernfamiry @ Jan 26 2022 12:51pm)
Looks like you’ll be selling ur zon for the 10th time


:rofl: savage
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Quote (modernfamiry @ Jan 26 2022 12:51pm)
Looks like you’ll be selling ur zon for the 10th time



I can finally afford a fully geared one, not selling this one. Lol
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Jan 26 2022 11:54am
if one player starts with chilling up, it incentivizes opponent to take a "bathroom break", start stacking rows/pots, or something to that effect to slow down the duels. cheapens the competitiveness imo. my char has 5224 def with chilling armor + fort, 2430 def on fort w/o chilling armor. roughly 15% chance to hit with multi Δ between chilling armor vs no chilling.


Quote (Hepzibah @ Jan 26 2022 12:26pm)
^^

i wonder what the damage difference looks like with a fort/shadow bow or matri vs 16060 + a gmb..

obv the downside of fort is attackspeed


phys damage with current 160-60 GMB build (assuming 15ed base, perfect roll): 701–4150

phys damage with fort, 15ed shadow faith: 838–4119 (but you'd need 2% more ias for 7 frames (65 minimum))
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