THIS

"...generally uninteresting item that's too accessible/boring. 160-60 with high life and def is a lot more stylish."

Please guys. ZvZ should be pure Zon skills.

- No non-amazon skills (Enchant, BO, Teleport, Werebear, etc).
- No cube in inventory.
- No chance to cast % curses/skills (Exceptions include: torch, default spawn mods from crafts).

CA is not a Zon skill and armor which proc it to often just doesn't fit in to classic Zon vs Zon duel.

this site is goated for running calculations

https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/fx02062z

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typical zvz damage hovers over the 4k ga mark

no DR bowside as well, forces you to run stormshield so also no OW

curious as well about dmg difference

Downside would be DR more than anything; if this was legacy 08gaze foc dungo and foi shadow bow was ultimately the best

i'd consider this an argument if sutton didnt defend rank 1 using phoenix some 30-40x defends

the rules were posted 12 yrs ago and this is a new game now lol, not saying I want changes necessarily but it's def something to consider

also too accessible is a good thing if we want more participants

This post was edited by BluntsGLI on Jan 26 2022 11:35am

If fort was allowed I would use it; but that being said duels would be long range more. The old gear is best suited for all ranges

shaft/120/45 is the same if not more accessible

zvz is just really niche - if you lost with shaft you'd lose with fort

doesnt matter to me either way if u guys want to change it we can talk about it

This post was edited by -Mammal on Jan 26 2022 11:38am

Forti just simple give huge buff for damage and I assume that 90% zon will go for build forti + 120/45 + goldwrap. High damage, low defense -> higher RNG.
And the CA issues increase RNG even more, beside from CA not being Zon skill.

but maybe I just have to close mindset cause I was always playing with league rules which has even more restriction than ZvZ Gm.