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Jan 8 2022 11:29am
my experience is opposite, shooting multi forces disengagement

making it completely spammable would encourage longer range gameplay to stay out of its range
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Quote (BluntsGLI @ Jan 8 2022 09:29am)
my experience is opposite, shooting multi forces disengagement

making it completely spammable would encourage longer range gameplay to stay out of its range



This. A multi whore is easily gamed by good GA

This post was edited by modernfamiry on Jan 8 2022 11:30am
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Quote (GoD-Viper @ Jan 8 2022 05:25pm)
I didn't played ZvZ on GM rules yet but I used to play back in legacy on PCL / EP rules which didn't allow you to use mana pots.
Without mana pots you simply cannot spam multi and you naturally need to manage multi/mana. I think it's quite good solution.
You also go for around 15-18 arrows instead of 24, and melee ring with mana become much more useful.



Even with no mana you can shoot more than 3 multi

My point is that it doesn’t give significant advantage so players should be free to play how they want

If anything it adds balance to these matchups, you honestly think a zon with 160frw is gonna have issues with someone pushing with multi only ?
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Jan 8 2022 11:32am
Seems like everyone prefers 30 rep life 4 hour ga only duels here then with no free choice

I don’t think you could kill me if I wanted to lame under these conditions
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Jan 8 2022 11:33am
Quote (modernfamiry @ Jan 8 2022 05:30pm)
This. A multi whore is easily gamed by good GA



Then why is it banned ?
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Jan 8 2022 11:34am
Quote (Amazonia @ 8 Jan 2022 18:30)
Even with no mana you can shoot more than 3 multi

My point is that it doesn’t give significant advantage so players should be free to play how they want

If anything it adds balance to these matchups, you honestly think a zon with 160frw is gonna have issues with someone pushing with multi only ?


Yes. You can throw like 5 volleys but you do this 3-4 times and you're out of mana. The mana regen is fast enough for you to shot GAs but you will have problem throw more than 1 volley after u running low on mana.
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Then why is it banned ?



Multi isn’t banned, you sound angry if you want to zon vs zon feel free. You can even stop by for some and multi all you want
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Quote (GoD-Viper @ Jan 8 2022 05:34pm)
Yes. You can throw like 5 volleys but you do this 3-4 times and you're out of mana. The mana regen is fast enough for you to shot GAs but you will have problem throw more than 1 volley after u running low on mana.



You can easily shoot 5-10 multi under pcl rules
Being restricted to maximum 3 is a huge difference lol
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Quote (Amazonia @ Jan 8 2022 09:38am)
You can easily shoot 5-10 multi under pcl rules
Being restricted to maximum 3 is a huge difference lol



Lol are we here to whine or pew pew
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Quote (Amazonia @ Jan 8 2022 12:33pm)
Then why is it banned ?


what benefit does unrestricting it add? how will this make the duels more fun?

I've spent tons of hours already on d2r duelling with the 3 volley rule in effect, none of my duels have been tedious or consisted of people hiding, spamming ga as you've described.

We generally duel at close/mid range and every time someone shoots a multi arrow, it has potential to force disengagement. I think unrestricting multi would actually send the gameplay further in the direction you don't like

come play some duels and you will see there is no change needed, the 3 multi rule encourages well balanced gameplay
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