Quote (Garciaparra @ Dec 5 2013 01:24pm)

yes, fire/light is fine.  However since wisp/lo is much better then tgod, we wont allow 80/20.


as far as cold is concern nick eric and i will figure that out eventually, until then this is in effect

wisp/Lo is bm
vex/dwarf is OK on vitas only

Quote (Garciaparra @ Dec 5 2013 08:48am)

you are right, either cold is overpowered, or under powered.  but a 200 vita should never have to play defense against any type of sorc, and with a 200 under 3300 life, they are forced to against the cold sorc.  And that is not what we intended to have happen.

So what we probablyshould  do is allow sorcs w/ less then 3500 life to stack up to 450 again, and sorcs above 3700 to use the new rule.

But we really do need to bring raven back, and there is no balanced way possible to do so.  so 399 + raven needs to be reinstated. 

only problem is i personally never wanted to hatch a set of rules based upon the life you have on you sorc cuz its silly.

but yes lo/wisp will not be allowed anymore for sure

Quote (Gemmd @ Dec 5 2013 04:13pm)

well adict is also a top notch cold sorc since i got sop now. 3.5k life with ormus build with 12.9bliz 12.4ib -260cr vs fire

if u took a rand cold sorc ud tank alot more. even vs tyler u should tank 1 more and him 1 less since he has to use infernos and would need more fr so he would also need to use a fcr ring or jewel instead of bk or facet.

as far as i can tell, imo 425 is the most balanced. i dont have a problem with 399 and raven tho since the cm still has a factor.

i have no trouble with cold sorcs on nas and he has 425 with 3.2k life, maybe thats just cause i know how cold sorcs duel. 

Quote (vmb @ Dec 5 2013 04:21pm)

So can ES vs Vita use raven?

Quote (Garciaparra @ Dec 5 2013 04:24pm)

so you agree to bring raven + 399 back?

and you should know that im the best person in the game when dueling a blizz.

but i dont think anyone understands my point out of all of this.




es %?

Quote (vmb @ Dec 5 2013 04:29pm)

I get what you're saying. Sorc's with lesser life should be allowed to use more res so they don't have to l8z. I agree but then I don't because then you're allowing a cheap sorc to tank as much as someone who seriously invested into their sorc. I think one rule should stand and if you want to meet that rule and do well in the dueling arena, invest in your char to hit higher life etc.

Es% less than 80 as example. Would that be ok for raven?

Quote (Shreve @ 5 Dec 2013 14:34)

Dont u l8z?

Quote (Creations @ Dec 5 2013 12:36pm)

Don't we all?

Quote (Shreve @ Dec 5 2013 04:34pm)

Dont u l8z?

Quote (vmb @ Dec 5 2013 12:37pm)

Play es sorc against vita and lmk if you can be 100% aggressive.