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Quote (yostraydog @ Dec 20 2014 09:57pm)
That's cause 20 hard points don't make shadow mb more.


Yeah I remember you telling me you didn't notice shadow mb less on a max fb build, but a lot of other people think otherwise.

This is the only empirical test I've seen on this issue:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34831686&f=87&p=223701833

Edit: Oh yeah there's also this thread - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=17390792&f=87&o=0

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Dec 20 2014 03:38pm
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Dec 20 2014 03:36pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Dec 20 2014 05:24pm)
Yeah I remember you telling me you didn't notice shadow mb less on a max fb build, but a lot of other people think otherwise.

This is the only empirical test I've seen on this issue:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34831686&f=87&p=223701833


Honestly I think it's just all in the head, I feel like regular max mb that shadow tends to more but who knows really lol
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Dec 20 2014 03:39pm
Max is best anyway
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Dec 20 2014 03:40pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Dec 20 2014 04:24pm)
Yeah I remember you telling me you didn't notice shadow mb less on a max fb build, but a lot of other people think otherwise.

This is the only empirical test I've seen on this issue:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34831686&f=87&p=223701833


It's based on the level of shadow master and the claw roll of the shadow, when mhing a shadow if the claws staff mods roll with +Mindblast it will mb more regardless of the skills added.

(higher lvl shadow master causes better item rolls)
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Dec 20 2014 03:42pm
Quote (StriferZer0 @ Dec 20 2014 10:39pm)
Max is best anyway


Yeah even if it didn't mb more the increased dmg and stun length is a good enough reason to max it.

Wasn't really the point of my post tho, I was just saying that there are some weird mechanics in d2 that pretty much no-one fully understands and that there's a chance that this wizzy druid thing could be one of them.

Quote (yostraydog @ Dec 20 2014 10:40pm)
It's based on the level of shadow master and the claw roll of the shadow, when mhing a shadow if the claws staff mods roll with +Mindblast it will mb more regardless of the skills added.

(higher lvl shadow master causes better item rolls)


Hmm interesting..

@bolded tho I think shadow lvl applies to what items can spawn on the master. i.e. after lvl 17 master it can spawn with all items:
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/assassin-shadow.shtml#shadowmaster

But what you're saying makes sense tho and kinna concurs with what I've seen ingame. IMO the +skills on the shadows claws are based on the distribution of hard points you skill. So a max fb sin can spawn a shadow that mb's a lot, its just less likely to do so. It would also explain why I've noticed mindblasts happening in "bursts" too. This would also explain Alex's test results a bit in that thread I linked.

So yeah if you can keep your shadow alive, I reckon _eventually_ even with a max fb build it would spawn items that had +mb on and thus be more likely to mb, its just that the time it would take for the shadow to gain this gear would be longer??

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Dec 20 2014 03:56pm
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Dec 20 2014 03:46pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Dec 20 2014 04:42pm)
Yeah even if it didn't mb more the increased dmg and stun length is a good enough reason to max it.

Wasn't really the point of my post tho, I was just saying that there are some weird mechanics in d2 that pretty much no-one fully understands and that there's a chance that this wizzy druid thing could be one of them.


Vouch, I personally don't feel maxing it helps the shadow, but I max it cause tvn without 10 second swirly is completely retarded.
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Vouch, I personally don't feel maxing it helps the shadow, but I max it cause tvn without 10 second swirly is completely retarded.


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Dec 20 2014 11:42pm
the one guy who still plays barb in 2014

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the one guy who still plays barb in 2014


What? Lol
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