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Jul 22 2009 11:23am
Quote (Duv @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 12:18pm)
i remember when you and i used to duel for fg. for the most part i would win even tho you were higher lvl and probably had a barb 2-3x the value of mine. then all the sudden you were beating me, you made me aware that you had acquired a "nub hat" which seemed to make all the difference in the outcome of our duels. now im not sure what all changes you had made to your barb, but in this particular case that unperm gear did seem to make all the difference.



im not by any means rich however i dont believe in unperm use as a means to attain gg status. but just my personal opinion.

on another note.. waitin for temp ban to fuck off so i can duel ironskins  <_<


the "nub hat" didint make the difference, it's the fact that he is learning the angles and tricks of bvb. something i picked up rather quickly but others struggle with, guess devilish had E-add or something ROFL!
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Jul 22 2009 11:24am
Quote (Duv @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 12:18pm)
i remember when you and i used to duel for fg. for the most part i would win even tho you were higher lvl and probably had a barb 2-3x the value of mine. then all the sudden you were beating me, you made me aware that you had acquired a "nub hat" which seemed to make all the difference in the outcome of our duels. now im not sure what all changes you had made to your barb, but in this particular case that unperm gear did seem to make all the difference.


That's funny, because my barb is built for zbug arreats. Which means he is unable to use any other helmet, and I was using it every single time you dueled me....

You beat me more often initially because I hadn't bvb'd in forever and was pretty bad at my ww's. The more I bvb, the better I get at it, that's all it is. After I got the hang of it, I started winning more.

Not just vs you.
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Jul 22 2009 11:27am
Quote (Devilish @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 09:24am)
That's funny, because my barb is built for zbug arreats. Which means he is unable to use any other helmet, and I was using it every single time you dueled me....

You beat me more often initially because I hadn't bvb'd in forever and was pretty bad at my ww's. The more I bvb, the better I get at it, that's all it is. After I got the hang of it, I started winning more.

Not just vs you.


Quote (Ironskins @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 09:23am)
the "nub hat" didint make the difference, it's the fact that he is learning the angles and tricks of bvb. something i picked up rather quickly but others struggle with, guess devilish had E-add or something ROFL!


i've been bvb'n maybe 3-4 years now and im not aware of any tricks or angles..it's not like zealing where there are glitchy angles and things like that
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Jul 22 2009 11:29am
Quote (Duv @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 12:27pm)
i've been bvb'n maybe 3-4 years now and im not aware of any tricks or angles..it's not like zealing where there are glitchy angles and things like that


guess i pay attention more or something idk, but alot of bvb is ww'ing in a certain direction to attain good hits. ever noticed that if someone chases ur ww they tend to get hit more?
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Quote (Duv @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 12:27pm)
i've been bvb'n maybe 3-4 years now and im not aware of any tricks or angles..it's not like zealing where there are glitchy angles and things like that


You are fucking nuts if you think there are no "angles" or "tricks" to BVB. It's much more obvious then it is with zeal.

I remember us having this conversation a while back when I first geared up Dirtball. We were talking about how you shouldn't be able to beat me at all because of the level factor, and that my barb was all 100% perfect.

The reason you were winning was because you were better at BVB then I was. Which means you were better at angling your ww's.

The fact that you used to win regularly then stopped winning proves my point exactly, bud.
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Jul 22 2009 11:34am
Quote (Devilish @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 01:30pm)
You are fucking nuts if you think there are no "angles" or "tricks" to BVB. It's much more obvious then it is with zeal.

I remember us having this conversation a while back when I first geared up Dirtball. We were talking about how you shouldn't be able to beat me at all because of the level factor, and that my barb was all 100% perfect.

The reason you were winning was because you were better at BVB then I was. Which means you were better at angling your ww's.

The fact that you used to win regularly then stopped winning proves my point exactly, bud.


angles???? WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?

j/k.
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Jul 22 2009 11:43am
Quote (Ironskins @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 09:29am)
guess i pay attention more or something idk, but alot of bvb is ww'ing in a certain direction to attain good hits. ever noticed that if someone chases ur ww they tend to get hit more?


i think conan has spent time dueling with you, maybe even giving you some tips and told you there are tricks and angles alot of the things i see you type sound like something that would come from him or are sentiments that agree with his views on the game which leads me to believe it is indirectly from him to you to us. unless you guys are long lost twins?

Quote (Devilish @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 09:30am)
You are fucking nuts if you think there are no "angles" or "tricks" to BVB. It's much more obvious then it is with zeal.

I remember us having this conversation a while back when I first geared up Dirtball. We were talking about how you shouldn't be able to beat me at all because of the level factor, and that my barb was all 100% perfect.

The reason you were winning was because you were better at BVB then I was. Which means you were better at angling your ww's.

The fact that you used to win regularly then stopped winning proves my point exactly, bud.


maybe there are "tricks" im simply not aware of any i've been able to hit from all angles of a ww. unlike with zeal where you can get stuck at a certain angle and need to readjust to be able to fight back. aside from the tactic of always ww'ing away from your opponent to draw them in (which i pride myself on making backfire on people) but ya anyway unperms bad get good etc etc.
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Jul 22 2009 11:47am
well think what you want duv (not rageing ofc just difference in opinion) but if anything ive shown conan more than he has shown me ive even beat him before 7-4 which by all means i shouldint beat him at all
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Jul 22 2009 12:03pm
Quote (Duv @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 12:43pm)
i think conan has spent time dueling with you, maybe even giving you some tips and told you there are tricks and angles alot of the things i see you type sound like something that would come from him or are sentiments that agree with his views on the game which leads me to believe it is indirectly from him to you to us. unless you guys are long lost twins?



maybe there are "tricks" im simply not aware of any i've been able to hit from all angles of a ww. unlike with zeal where you can get stuck at a certain angle and need to readjust to be able to fight back. aside from the tactic of always ww'ing away from your opponent to draw them in (which i pride myself on making backfire on people) but ya anyway unperms bad get good etc etc.


I don't know the angles or tricks very well at all. I'm getting better at learning them....

Mike has actually picked up on the tricks better than I have, and it is him showing me things. My views on the game? :rofl: What exactly are you insinuating here, man?

There are more tricks to BVB then Zeal....

You say "unperms bad get good etc etc". The unperms don't make the difference....

You need to "get good" yourself there, bud. Everytime you lose you cry lag and make excuses. When you lose in BVB it's because the other guy ww'd better than you. Plain and simple.

Jupe can kill me with a level 92 barb with nub gears because he's better at ww'ing. Same reason I lost to mike 4-7. He ww's better than me.

This post was edited by Devilish on Jul 22 2009 12:04pm
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Jul 22 2009 12:11pm
Quote (Devilish @ Wed, Jul 22 2009, 11:03am)
I don't know the angles or tricks very well at all. I'm getting better at learning them....

Mike has actually picked up on the tricks better than I have, and it is him showing me things. My views on the game? :rofl: What exactly are you insinuating here, man?

There are more tricks to BVB then Zeal....

You say "unperms bad get good etc etc". The unperms don't make the difference....

You need to "get good" yourself there, bud. Everytime you lose you cry lag and make excuses. When you lose in BVB it's because the other guy ww'd better than you. Plain and simple.

Jupe can kill me with a level 92 barb with nub gears because he's better at ww'ing. Same reason I lost to mike 4-7. He ww's better than me.


Everyone knows im #1 lagger in this bvb ladder. If someone says they lagg I bet my ping is double if not tripple theres :LOL:
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