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Feb 12 2011 05:01pm
Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Feb 12 2011 03:49pm)
That's a little over the top, it's not meant to be so serious, it's a game and that should not be forgotten...the spam does need to stop, and if there are any problems or concerns, they should be pm'd to me or Jeff...I'm not sure why you think the rules are being made up, these are the same rules used in the Pn thread...With the exception that this is a non-tap ladder...

Let's try to keep it clean, and have fun...ask for help, keep the thread clean and pm us instead...


If your admin, you have to act so serious. It's your job to take care of your ladder. If you can't be serious then no point making this ladder because you have to put your foot down. I do it all the time :( Eh...Past few yrs on ladder, well every ladder season we used steve rules but we change it daily. We always used Sirsteve1 rules and not Pn rules because ladder is ment to be diffent and not like non ladder which is mostly about pn rules. :)

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=43793657&f=147&o=2900

Look at this. This how you run complete ladder ladder :) This was Sirsteve1 rules, it's way differnt then others. It's pretty amazing tbh like theres a LVL cap at 97 or 98 it hink since no botters like 99 users cannot join. this was few yrs ago btw lol.

This post was edited by Neko on Feb 12 2011 05:05pm
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Quote (Neko @ Feb 12 2011 06:01pm)
If your admin, you have to act so serious. It's your job to take care of your ladder. If you can't be serious then no point making this ladder because you have to put your foot down. I do it all the time :( Eh...Past few yrs on ladder, well every ladder season we used steve rules but we change it daily. We always used Sirsteve1 rules and not Pn rules because ladder is ment to be diffent and not like non ladder which is mostly about pn rules. :)

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=43793657&f=147&o=2900

Look at this. This how you run complete ladder ladder :) This was Sirsteve1 rules, it's way differnt then others. It's pretty amazing tbh like theres a LVL cap at 97 or 98 it hink since no botters like 99 users cannot join. this was few yrs ago btw lol.



You are entitled to your opinion, but I still disagree. The only difference between the rules you linked and the rules we have is the level cap, and back when that level cap was implemented, Uber bots were in full swing, so getting 99 was easy. It's not so easy any more. I'm not even sure how that relates to the current issue at hand any way, as there hasn't even been a discussion on levels of chars yet.

The problem is with people abusing the dodge rule to try and take that time to improve their gear. This is what's unacceptable. I don't feel it's necessary to pm Jsp mods over our little ladder issues, that's just silly. I also don't feel the need to run this ladder like I'm some kind of dictator. There should be an inherent sense of pride and respect when you sign up for the ladder, as well as some maturity, but ultimately it's a game and it's supposed to be fun. Things aren't so bad that I need to start removing people and yelling at everyone, but rather remind everyone here that they need to honor their challenges, and try to accept them in a timely fashion.

It's pretty simple really, either everyone will agree and start to accept the rules and start to actually accept the challenges, or they won't. I'm not here to be anyone's boss or daddy. I do want the thread kept clean for challenges only, any more discussion on this needs to be taken privately.


I will most likely ask mods to close this and reopen once more, and give this one more chance. I will probably modify the 3 day dodge rule as well. This is what I am thinking. A challenge must be sent via pm first. Once you accept that challenge, you must be able to duel with in 24 hours. If you can not accept the challenge, you have 48 hours to accept, or forfeit your spot. I understand that not everyone lives on Jsp, so if you can not accept the challenge due to legitimate reasons, you can ask for an extension. So this is how we will interpret the rule. If you pm someone to challenge, they have 24 from the time the pm is sent to reply. Either accepting and working out a time frame within 24 hours of accepting the challenge to duel. This should help eliminate those procrastinating. If you can not accept the challenge, you will be given 48 hours to accept, providing a reasonable excuse as to why you accept. This will essentially still be 3 days, with just some modifications. 24 hours to accept/reply - 48 hours to extend, with 24 hours after accepting before dodge is applied.

Some example scenarios:

Person A challenges Person B @ 3:30Pm EST on Friday the 11th.

Person B then has 24 hours from 3:30Pm EST to accept, or request extension and provide reasonable excuse for extension.

If accepted, Person B has 24 hours (from the time accepted) to meet with Person A and duel.

If requesting 48 hour extension, once the 48 hours is up, either a set time has already been scheduled and agreed upon, or the dodge rule then goes into effect, and you forfeit your position.

This puts the max cap to 3 days (if person A waits until 24 hour to reply and asks for 48 hour extension = 3 day).

But at the same time it makes it 24 hours before dodge is applied if challenge is not accepted, or replied to.


How does this sound?
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Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Feb 12 2011 04:50pm)
You are entitled to your opinion, but I still disagree. The only difference between the rules you linked and the rules we have is the level cap, and back when that level cap was implemented, Uber bots were in full swing, so getting 99 was easy. It's not so easy any more. I'm not even sure how that relates to the current issue at hand any way, as there hasn't even been a discussion on levels of chars yet.

The problem is with people abusing the dodge rule to try and take that time to improve their gear. This is what's unacceptable. I don't feel it's necessary to pm Jsp mods over our little ladder issues, that's just silly. I also don't feel the need to run this ladder like I'm some kind of dictator. There should be an inherent sense of pride and respect when you sign up for the ladder, as well as some maturity, but ultimately it's a game and it's supposed to be fun. Things aren't so bad that I need to start removing people and yelling at everyone, but rather remind everyone here that they need to honor their challenges, and try to accept them in a timely fashion.

It's pretty simple really, either everyone will agree and start to accept the rules and start to actually accept the challenges, or they won't. I'm not here to be anyone's boss or daddy. I do want the thread kept clean for challenges only, any more discussion on this needs to be taken privately.


I will most likely ask mods to close this and reopen once more, and give this one more chance. I will probably modify the 3 day dodge rule as well. This is what I am thinking. A challenge must be sent via pm first. Once you accept that challenge, you must be able to duel with in 24 hours. If you can not accept the challenge, you have 48 hours to accept, or forfeit your spot. I understand that not everyone lives on Jsp, so if you can not accept the challenge due to legitimate reasons, you can ask for an extension. So this is how we will interpret the rule. If you pm someone to challenge, they have 24 from the time the pm is sent to reply. Either accepting and working out a time frame within 24 hours of accepting the challenge to duel. This should help eliminate those procrastinating. If you can not accept the challenge, you will be given 48 hours to accept, providing a reasonable excuse as to why you accept. This will essentially still be 3 days, with just some modifications. 24 hours to accept/reply - 48 hours to extend, with 24 hours after accepting before dodge is applied.

Some example scenarios:

Person A challenges Person B @ 3:30Pm EST on Friday the 11th.

Person B then has 24 hours from 3:30Pm EST to accept, or request extension and provide reasonable excuse for extension.

If accepted, Person B has 24 hours (from the time accepted) to meet with Person A and duel.

If requesting 48 hour extension, once the 48 hours is up, either a set time has already been scheduled and agreed upon, or the dodge rule then goes into effect, and you forfeit your position.

This puts the max cap to 3 days (if person A waits until 24 hour to reply and asks for 48 hour extension = 3 day).

But at the same time it makes it 24 hours before dodge is applied if challenge is not accepted, or replied to.


How does this sound?



It won't work..That's just plain retard really. 3 days is good enough though, some people has life and sometimes they cannot complete match :( you shouldn't remove people about for being upset over stupid things really. you should atleast warn them and pm them telling them this and that if they continue GO pm med and tell med he did this and that. don't remove them thats just making you bad guy. it's like saying if you said somethign retard your going remove ur self? "prolly not" cuz ur admin correct? yeah its just retard why not just go pm mod and let them handle it. Force removing people is plain stupid and non sense you should ONLY do that if that user is a scammer or bm the shit of your private game or did something wrong not spamming/flamming/etc thats should be Mods problem.

doing cap limit kicks ass soo barbs and furys and other non pallys can join in. plus ladder rests soon..it's pointless going lvl 99 lol.

This post was edited by Neko on Feb 12 2011 06:02pm
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Feb 12 2011 06:06pm
24h to accept challenge is kindda tight, its means u have to log on every day (even if its the case for most of us....).

but its up to you.

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Quote (madesaq @ Feb 12 2011 05:06pm)
24h to accept challenge is kindda tight, its means u have to log on every day (even if its the case for most of us....).

but its up to you.


/agree.
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Feb 12 2011 06:14pm
first-i think we should have a somewhat stronger stance on BM and rage, steves 2d rule was "Have fun!! (No Rage Drama BM or Bullshit you will be Removed/Banned If there are Multiple Complaints about you)". The last 3 pages are just accusations and flames, and i think its dumb for ppl to just rage in this thread regardless the reason, it makes everyone in the ladder look bad and I think should a med contacted about spam if they cant keep it out.

second- You cant rly make ppl play the game i think 3 days is fine, and sometimes you will get people who take the whole 3 days, where we need to get better is being honest with other players and not treating them like enemies or trolling them. If someone needs time off to do something steve used to put a * by there name , give them a week, and say it was ok to skip, but once again this relies on the player takeing responsibility and tell an admin.

the most important thing is that everyone is having fun not trying to belittle or one-up each other, its always hard at the beginning of ladders but as the season goes on you start to see who the problem player are and try to get them on the same page or if need be a different ladder.
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Feb 12 2011 09:46pm
Ill post something tomorrow when sober
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Feb 13 2011 09:23am
Quote (memnoch_thedevil2003 @ Feb 11 2011 09:57am)
Challenging Newfie again, might as well...




Updated!

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8933/23325235.jpg


US East Ladder


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<Challenge System>


Please Read Before Issuing New Challenges

1) Have fun!! (No Rage,Drama, BM or Spam, you will be Removed/Banned If there are Multiple Complaints about you)
2) To be added to the Ladder post Jsp Name/D2 Acct/Char Name- Type of Char
3) Allowed to challenge up to 2 ranks above you until you get to #5 then you must duel Everybody to get to #1
4) You Must Pm the other party about the challenge FIRST then post challenge in this topic.
5) GM Melee Rules Apply to all Duels
6) Challenge will be best 2/3 sets First to Six Must Win each set by 2 Duels
7) You may Change Gear 1 time during a Set and 1 time between each Set
8) No Use of Tokens or Respec'ng Allowed
9) If you Issued the Challenge Must wait 12 hours after Completion of Challenge to Issue another Challenge
10) If you lose a Challenge you must wait 48 Hours to Rechallenge the same Person
11) 3-Day Dodge Rule (Afk, No-reply, No-show = Auto-Loss) 2 Consecutive "Dodges" = Removed from Ladder


(If you Cannot Complete Your Challenge on Time it is your Responsibitly to PM your Challenger to Inform
them and then Post in Thread Asking for an Extension. If you fail to do this Dodge Rule will Be Enforced.)


* symbol for 1 dodge applied

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<Gm Melee Rules>




Prohibitions

- Do not commit acts of bad manner.
- Do not angle (both parallel to the town door)
- Do not prebuff.
- Do not use poison.
- Do not use slow.
- Do not enchant.
- Do not smite.
- Do not charge.
- Do not jump.
- Do not pot.
- Do not run.
- Do not whirlwind.
- Do not knockback.
- Do not use items that emit auras which affect player vs. player (PVP) and cause physical and/or elemental damage.
- Do not emit the holy freeze aura.
- Do not cast item/torch charges.

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List of BM Items

[Weapons - Runewords]
Grief
Doom
Eternity
Death
[Weapons - Uniques]
Cranebeak (War Spike)
Hell Slayer (Decapitator)
Messerschmidt's Reaver (Champion Axe)
Fleshripper (Fanged Knifte)
Nord's Tenderizer (Truncheon)
Demon Limb (Tyrant Club)
Baranar's Star (Devil Star)
Horizon's Tornado (Scourge)
Stormlash (Scourge)
Schaefer's Hammer (Legendary Mallet)
Windhammer (Ogre Maul)
Astreon's Iron Ward (Caduceus)
Djinn Slayer (Ataghan)
Lightsabre (Phase Blade)
Azurewrath (Phase Blade)
Frostwind (Cryptic Sword)
Flamebellow (Balrog Blade)

[Weapons - Rares/Magics]
Any weapon with poison damage (vouch civic 4 this rule update)
Any weapon with more than 200 total elemental damage
Any weapon that casts an elemental skill over Level 5
Any weapon that casts amplify curses ( same with any armor )
Any poison on gear

[Armors]
Nosferatu's Coil (Vampirefang Belt)
Arachnid Mesh (Spiderweb Sash)
Cleglaw's Pincers (Set gloves)
Andariel's Visage (Demonhead)
Blackhorn's Face (Death Mask)
Giant Skull (Bone Visage)
Ethereal Fort
Ethereal Stone
Any armor that casts slow or elemental skill over Level 5
Any ethereal armor with no repair mod or zod rune (breakable armor)


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Special Mention

[Starting Duel] - Both must have "go" over head at same time action begins. If one "go" drops first, wait for them to put it up again

[Miss-Clicking] - Continue fighting

[Glitched Strength] - Auto DQ will result if you die and can't pick up gear

[Chilling Armor] - Must not be on prior to a duel, Referee to kill off surviving player with chilling armor

[Holyshield] - Do not cast holyshield prior to gear change. if casted hs and changed gear, Referee to kill off player and recast hs

[Running into/during Duel] - Point awarded to opponent

[Draws] - If neither player survives a walk back to town, counts as a draw. No point awarded to either player

[Use of Exile/Tap Gear] - Per Vote this is a Non-Tap Melee Ladder

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Omittance

Anything not mentioned here is subject to Referee's decision, and is final










Current Ladder Rankings



01. NewfiE/Nigros/Nigros - Zeal

02. memnoch_thedevil2003/Michael/Michael - Zeal

03. donkey_kart/Intranet/Calvin - Zeal

04. madesaq/madesaql2/mike_hauk - Zeal

05. jazj29/Jazj29/No_Love - Zeal

06. Killthor/Killthor/Hammerdink - Zeal

07. mauricio//koc_holymanlev - Zeal

08. g4ost/g4ost/cooon-Qc- Zeal*

09. deepfrost/tonytones/beastoid - Zeal

10. Robperry12/Robbie12/Omfgbro - Zeal

11. cavil/newlaws3/whakka - Zeal

12. tizo/theman1187/DrMcHardOn - Zeal

13. AsIlay_Dying/SixFeetDown/Bearded - Conc

14. Haitham/Sensational/Sensational - Zeal

15. eweezy/hoh.eric12645/eweezy - Zeal

16. Zhu/GuildWars/Bloodfall - Zeal*

17. donkey_kart/donkey_kart/Wrex - Conc

18. meamkurtis/FORTITUDE/Pickin - Zeal

19. pragbag/jasonsellors/bagg - Zeal


Present & Pending Duels

Please make sure the person you are challenging doesn't have a Challenge Pending. Also post challenges as: copy & paste Your Info vs your Opponent's Info or your challenge might not get posted, this helps for faster updates for the Admin-Assists.




20. pragbag/jasonsellors/bagg - Zeal

Challenging

18. Zhu/GuildWars/Bloodfall - Zeal*



09. deepfrost/tonytones/beastoid - Zeal

Challenging

07. mauricio//koc_holymanlev - Zeal



04. madesaq/madesaql2/mike_hauk - Zeal

Challenging

03. donkey_kart/Intranet/Calvin - Zeal



11. cavil/newlaws3/whakka - Zeal

Challenging

10. Robperry12/Robbie12/Omfgbro - Zeal



02. memnoch_thedevil2003/Michael/Michael - Zeal

Challenging

01. NewfiE/Nigros/Nigros - Zeal




Any questions or concerns please Pm memnoch_thedevil2003 or NewfiE

Good Luck and Have Fun!!

07. mauricio//koc_holyman - Zeal

challenge

06. Killthor/Killthor/Hammerdink - Zeal

pm sent @ sunday,feb 13 11:20am east

This post was edited by mauricio on Feb 13 2011 09:26am
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Feb 13 2011 10:01am
07. mauricio//koc_holyman - Zeal

challenge

06. Killthor/Killthor/Hammerdink - Zeal

pm sent @ sunday,feb 13 11:20am east

he won sets 6-4 ,6-4
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Feb 13 2011 10:08am
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07. mauricio//koc_holyman - Zeal

challenge

06. Killthor/Killthor/Hammerdink - Zeal

pm sent @ sunday,feb 13 11:20am east

he won sets 6-4 ,6-4


06. Killthor/Killthor/Hammerdink - Zeal

challenging

04. madesaq/madesaql2/mike_hauk - Zeal
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